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gmurrie
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From: Houston,Texas, US
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posted posted 05-21-2002 05:20

I've read eyeballs ( www.eyeball-design.com/fxzone/tutorial.htm ) tutorial on rounded inside corners. My problem is that the edges of the elliptical marguee tool are not smooth, rendering the corner uneven as well. Anybody have a hint or another tutorial?

Raptor
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posted posted 05-21-2002 05:32

Check the "Anti-Alias" button in the tool options for the elliptical marquee tool. That tutorial works just fine

For those wondering, he meant this tutorial.

[This message has been edited by Raptor (edited 05-21-2002).]

gmurrie
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posted posted 05-21-2002 06:04

I downloaded the .psd for that tutorial and found it had the same problem I am trying to describe. Am I simply looking at resolution effect? I'm at 72 dpi and am not happy with the jagged edges of the curve at all. Any other ideas? OBTW, I had anti-aliasing on when using elliptical marquee tool.

cyoung
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posted posted 05-21-2002 06:09

Is there a reason you can't do these things with the pen tool?

warjournal
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posted posted 05-21-2002 06:23


Pen Tools Rock!!

gmurrie
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posted posted 05-21-2002 07:38

Thanks guys for the help. I got a lot of good inital use of the pen tool, and I agree, it rocks, but I couldn't get it to do what I wanted. BUT, I used the aforementioned rounded edge technique in combination with the "remove jagged edges" at www.neofrog.com/tips/smooth.html , works like a damn. Thanks again to all.

Dracusis
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posted posted 05-21-2002 08:05

Depending on how rounded you want a shape you could do it like this:

1. Make the shape with simple box selections.
2. Enter quick mask mode.
3. Blur to desiered curvyness.
4. Ramp the contrast up to about 96.
5. Exit quick mask and fill.

DL-44
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posted posted 05-21-2002 15:19

http://www.gurusnetwork.com/tutorials/photoshop/shapes1.html

Put your shape in a channel.

Gaussian Blur.

Adjust Levels.

My prefered technique...

WebShaman
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posted posted 05-21-2002 15:38

Yup. DL-44 has the answer. That's a great method, I use it alot, as well...because it's easy...

Dracusis
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posted posted 05-21-2002 16:05

Oooh yah, I like that one DL. That's roughly the same as my techniquebut a little more flexabul, and you can build a back door for yourself if you save the un-altered channel.

Coolness. I'll have to keep that one in mind.

jiblet
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posted posted 05-21-2002 23:08

I'd just like to point out that the elliptical marquee tool with anti-aliasing gives you the maximum amount of anti-aliasing while maintaining the sharpest possible edge.

You can get a smoother edge with the blur/levels technique, but if so it will also be more blurry (you can get a more jagged edge too for that matter). Of course it sounds like that's just what you want, but it's worth keeping in mind for when crispness matters.

-jiblet

docilebob
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posted posted 05-22-2002 07:28

In PS6 the rounded rectangle tool works pretty good, too.
You can set the radius, create a work path, filled region, or shape layer, and save the path for reuse.

for inside corners, select the shape layer, cut

DL-44
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posted posted 05-22-2002 18:53

Jiblet - while you are technically correct, sometimes the marquee tool simply can't get the proper balance as needed.

I still use 5, so I don't know anything about the rounded rectangle tool


GRUMBLE
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posted posted 05-23-2002 00:51

finally, DL s got a new sig.
i was already sick of the old one.

vogonpoet
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posted posted 05-23-2002 00:55

WebShaman
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posted posted 05-23-2002 10:35

There are still jaggies...using that what you have VP (very nice, BTW) I would then apply the technique that DL-44 described...

Osprey
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posted posted 05-23-2002 16:20

My vote for smoothest edges has to go to the pen tool. I take it a step further though, if I'm doing somthing like what DL-44 did in his tutorial I create the shapes in Illustrator then color them in Photoshop even though a path is a path is a path. I'm just more confortable with the pen tool in Illustrator (I know its the same tool, but I'm quirky that way).

jiblet
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posted posted 05-23-2002 17:20

I am pretty sure the pen tool will render identically to the rounded rectangle.

Anyway, I think people's monitor sizes, quality, and resolution play a big part in what they consider to be jaggies. I mean, let's face it, square pixels are square, compromises have to be made. DL-44 is right of course, blur/levels gives you the most flexibility, and is also the one that requires the most practice to use effectively.

-jiblet

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