Preserved Topic: POP QUIZ #2

The old thread was 82+ posts and Bugimus has to temp deal with dialup,
so here is the new thread continued from here

:: Jon ::

[This message has been edited by Dark (edited 12-15-2001).]

Yah, but what was the question? I think it was Bugimus who asked...

quote:

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Anyway, Q: What bishop in a sermon given in 1890 said, "If God had meant man to fly, he would have given him wings." Aside from being a famous quotation what other fact makes this even more interesting?

P.S. Remember you're not supposed to use a search engine for this!

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Your pal, -doc-



[This message has been edited by DocOzone (edited 12-16-2001).]

So far InSiDeR has come the closest........keep guessing guys

Hmmm this one is a tricky one...

Well bugs which part am I right about John Paul or Wright brothers? It would help me out greately if I knew which one to stick with

In my country's educational system there's a sort of rating on the questions
From 1 to 5, they increase in dificulty.
from 1 -> quick answer-question association
to 5 -> apply new knowledge to new situations

there's a term a teacher of mine invented for our class.
She would almost always put a "zero" question in our tests.
The thing was, it was worth more than all the others, and almost always was very redundant. It was often about a magazine/newspaper article, that would be read to us after the test. The article itself would not be presented to us - only it's title/subject in the form of the question. Then we would see the most interesting answers because, as plain as it seems, there was a slim to none chance that any of us had ever read that particular article.
This is that type of question.
Although for this one I will have no answer. ^_^

Well the bishop's name certainly wasn't John Paul but you were correct that part of the answer has to do with the Wright brothers and their famous first flight. It shouldn't take very much imagination to come up with a connection between the quotation and the Wright brothers.

I had heard the quote countless times and I of course knew about the Wright brothers but I only found out last week about a connection. Keep 'em coming.

Yea I figured it wasn't john paul. Could it be that this "Anonymous" Bishop supported the idea later in his life? maybe he flew in an airplane?'

edit: I wish I had a bartletts on me......

[This message has been edited by InSiDeR (edited 12-16-2001).]

Should I just give the answer and get this quiz moving again? Any last guesses?

uh...i remember something about the wright brother's father being a bishop. so...i'm a gonna guess that they're father said this. if i remember my 7th grade history right, it was michael, milton, some m name and they're mother was an "s" name, like sarah or something...but he was a bishop...i remember that much.

g r a p h i t e 1 3

DING DING DING!!! Bishop Milton Wright is... well... RIGHT!!!

A: While it is not well known, it was the Wright Brothers' own father, Bishop Wright, who during a sermon in 1890, eloquently expounded on the fact that the Second Coming of Christ was near at-hand, because nearly everything God had sent man to earth to do was done.

In response, a member of his congregation jumped up and said that wasn't true because someday man would fly.

Bishop Wright responded with his now famous argument: "If God had meant man to fly, he would have given him wings."

Well, it was just 13 years later, on December 17, 1903, that Bishop Wright's very own sons -- Orville and Wilber -- concluded four years of research and design, making the first powered flight by man in a heavier-than-air machine.

Good job, graphite13, it's your turn.

since i am a video game junkie....

Q: What is generally considered to be the first fully interactive video game, who programmed it in what year, and what machine was it made for?

I may not be following the rules in asking such an in depth question...but hey...it should be simple (i knew it =P)

g r a p h i t e 1 3

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Don't know the name of the game... don't know what year nor the name of the programmer <lol> but I do beleive it was a woman who designed the game, something simple like X's & O's... It was the womans daughter who mostly played it...so 'mom' and others could debug the program. And something rolling around in the inner recesses of what's left of my mind...tells me the machine was Univac.

Pong, Atari, I dunno the rest let me call my uncle he will know for sure....

wrong. still wrong.
well i'll give you a hint, NoJive, it was a guy.


g r a p h i t e 1 3

I believe pong came out in the 70's for the Magnavox Odessey?.
But there was definately games before pong. Was that the system though?

no i twasn't the system. how about i give you all a hint. The computer was a PDP-1 mainframe.

That should help you a little.

g r a p h i t e 1 3

oooh ooooh

Spacewar!!!...frig, what was the designer's name? Scott...err...~doesn't do a search~...dammit..Scott something..or Stephen maybe. Wait, Scott Russel?

Anyway, that was early 60s, 1963 I think. I know it was MIT though...simple game. I saw a display of it once recreated.

Spacewar??? Really? I used to play a stand up version of that in the arcades with my dad! I *loved* that game!

Video Games for 800;Dark Garden, you know have the board.

A:Spacewar is generally considered to be the first video game. Programmed in 1962 by MIT student Steve Russell, Spacewar was a simple game with ASCII graphics where two players would blast lasers at each other. At the time, the game only ran on massive, million-dollar mainframes the size of a small house (PDP-1's). Spacewar was circulated to other computer labs across the country, but only nerdy college students with access to mainframes could play it.

g r a p h i t e 1 3

Steve Russel...62?

Dammit Jim..I was so damn close!!!

Ugh, I hate wrong ansers that are that close..feels cheap. Oh wait..I'm cheap..nevermind.

Okee, let's see from video games, to life's daily adventures:

The Flush Toliet, kids...who, where and when?

Invented..of course....sickos. No lookie in da google.

~pokes the topic with a stick~


dg, i think you just killed it

I'll give this a bump and a real lame guess:

Some Frenchman who's name contains or was Toilet, from France, sometime in the mid 1800s.

No google means I gotta use da noodle

damn, i remember hearing something about this a long time ago.
I think the guy was in europe somehwere, france keep coming to mind
yeah, i think the guys name was toilet, but that is too vague in my memory

I think his name was something like John or Thomas Crappa(e?)r and I think in france but not really sure when ... ahh the wonderful things you learn in middle school ..


".. Silence : the most deafening sound of them all."

I'm sure this guy's mom is very proud...


"...when I'm high like heaven, when I'm strong like music, 'cause I'm slow like honey and heavy with mood..."
ICQ: 67751342

I know that Thomas Crapper is the popular answer, but I don't think it's right. I seem to recall that Crapper was a plumber who got several patents for plumbing devices (maybe they had to do with toilets, I dunno), but I thought that someone else actually invented the flush toilet.



There are a lot of strange people in the world. I should know; I'm three of them...

was his last name Head??

I know John Crapper has something to do with it cause I got called that alot when I was younger since my name is Jon I guess, but did he invent the "flush' toilet? Or did he really even invent the toilet period?

very interesting.....


:: Nothing Real Can Be Threatened. Nothing Unreal Exists. ::

[This message has been edited by Dark (edited 12-27-2001).]

Funny I was talking about this with someone the other day. I believe that the guys name was John Harington. He was British. When this was I don't know.

The guy that most people think had something to do with it was Thomas Crapper, but I don't think this guy even existed.

Later,
C:\

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OH NO! where did he go to? DG? DG? Where are ya bud?

DING DING DING!!!

Cprompt has it...though Thomas Crapper actually did exist, he's just many in a long string of people who refined the invention after it was created (some 200 years after, of course)

Sir John Harington, godson to Queen Elizabeth, set about making a "necessary" for his godmother and himself in 1596. A rather accomplished inventor, Harington ended his career with this invention, for he was ridiculed by his peers for this absurd device. He never built another one, though he and his godmother both used theirs.

The flush toilet, or "Water Closet" was then refined by maaaaaaaaannny people, most of which were British, and/or Canadian.

Ah, the history of the crapper.

~cough~

All right, you're up to bat C:/

I should have known it was the English and the Canadians who were the most crap obsessed among us.

hahahah! Hey that's not true! Americian love crap! , um ..... (Did I say that) I meant .... nevermind. It's the overpowering need to be part of the crowd.

WooHoo!! I got one right. I actually forgot about this. hehe.

Ok, on with some trivia.

We all (at least I think) have heard of the "spare rib". Those tasty pork ribs that you serve up with Barbeque sauce. Well, where did the name "Spare Rib" come from? It's obvious that the pig does not have an "extra" rib that it could spare, so where did this name come from?

Good luck.



Later,
C:\


~Binary is best~

Holly cow that's a good one, and off the top of my head I can't answer it.
Stick with the rules guys : NO search engines

Adam gave one to Eve, but I`m not sure if it was BBQ`d...

Non-american not_rib_obsessed vegeterian ppl like me are out of the picture on this one, don't you think?

That'd be my guess, DB, if you hadn't gotten there first.

Hey yeah that sounds about right. Is he right?

According to my resources....I'm sorry but you are incorrect.
And Arthemis, you don't have to eat meat to know the answer.

Later,
C:\


~Binary is best~

[This message has been edited by CPrompt (edited 01-06-2002).]

It isn't really 'spare' ribs...as in 'extra' rib.
Spare ribs is from an old German word...ribspare or ribsper or ribspeare or something close to that. It was basically the same thing we think of now...ribs roasted over an open fire, probably on a spit.
And I'm a vegetarian too...

mobrul

mobrul,
You are SO close! You are on the right track.

Later,
C:\


~Binary is best~

Close?
Close!?
No way, 'close'. I'm right on.
I remember from HS german class.
The ONLY way I could be off is the spelling of the German word...but the basic idea is there. Do I need to go dig up old german text or notes and find the exact spelling?

mobrul

CPrompt decides who is correct or incorrect.

LOL! How close is close enough?

Jeez mobrul calm down dude. I'll give it to ya. I guess that was close enough.

Here is what I was looking for. The term "spare rib" was nothing more than a mispronunciation of the word. The cowboys of the west would roast the ribs on an open fire with the meat being pierced using a "SPUR". So when people would talk about doing this to people they came in contact with, the cowboy accent would get in the way and "Spur" came out sounding like "Spare". So the mispronunciation stuck.

Later,
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~Binary is best~

I really wasn't upset...that's why I said " " .
I apologize if my mock indignation didn't come out so 'mock'.

mobrul

I knew you were kidding. So was I. No big deal. Unless someone comes right out and blatantly bashes me (which has never happened here), I don't get upset. You're up. What trivia do you bring to us??

Later,
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~Binary is best~

You gotta be joking me! That's where we got spare rib from? From mispronunciation?
Wow, if those people had been at my birth I would have been called Shon instead of Jon, heh. I wonder what other names we got through a mispronunciation of a word or term.

Who is the mystery guest?

This one is probably pretty tough. If nobody minds, I will come back to this post and edit/append 1 hint/day.
mobrul

Seems like this one is a little tougher than maybe I thought it was...here are the hints.
HINTS:

#1 She was alive in the late 19th century and the early 20th century. Born in Russia, she immigrated to America at the age of 16. She moved back to Russia in 1919. In 1921 she moved to Great Britian. She travelled among the US, UK and France until she died in 1940. Today she is buried in Chicago.

#2 This lady left Russia following the assasination of Alexander II. It was a time of serious economic and political turmoil and oppression. It was there and then she developed her desire to fight social oppression. While in the U.S. she became relatively well known as a speaker and author. She wrote at least 4 major books and many many (almost uncountable) pamplets, articles and poems. She was an advocate of feminism, women's health, social justice, the working class/labor unions, and freedom. Her trip back to Russia was a result of her deportation after spending a few years in a prison in Jefferson City, Missouri for encouraging young men to not fight in WWI.

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hmm well she looks like the woman of the beverly hillbillies, but that can't be right.

not the beverly hillbilly lady

Ayn Rand???

Mary Poppins

did she live in tibet for a while?

Anything to do with ballet?

Not Ayn Rand...Ayn died in early 1980's (I think).
Bugs, in some ways you really couldn't be much further away...but in another sense you are "SO close". (damn it! gave away another hint, I did...)

Not Mary Poppins

As far as I know (and I've a few biographies on her) she never lived in Tibet...or even visited there.

She may have enjoyed watching ballet, but ballet has nothing at all to do with why she was well known.
(And what is this, huh? 20 questions?? )
mobrul

Yeah this is 200000 questions and we are going to figure this out by Golly!

Man I keep forgetting about this thread! Must be all those useless posts that I keep making. hehe

I know who this is but I don't want to say because I just had my turn.

~I will keep the secret~ shhhhh.

Later,
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~Binary is best~

My first guess would have been Madame Blavatsky but hint 2 blows that out of the water and a quick nose around shows her dates were 1831 - 1891:
www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/madame-blavatsky.htm

Next guess (using the Internet) Mollie Steimer but again the dates are wrong although the details are close:
www.spunk.org/texts/pubs/sekhmet/8/sp001228.txt

Which incindentally (as their paths crossed) gave me the right answer:

Emma Goldman:
http://directory.google.com/Top/Society/Politics/Anarchism/People/Goldman,_Emma

And buy some Emmerabalia:
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Goldman/Emmarabilia

Do I win?

I do feel like I've cheated though as it wasn't anything I 'knew'. So I might relinquish my go to someone more worthy!! [edit: I'm also stumped on a question!! The only reason I got interested was because it look like my grandmother]

Emps



You're my wife now Dave

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Ding Ding Ding Ding!

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!!!
Emma Goldman it is (was?).

Emperor is the man in charge of this thread now...
I pass the honor to you, do with it as you wish.

mobrul

Right I have thought of one although it is rather unpleasant (I'm debating whether to use it) and I'd better do a little research to make sure its all true.

Back in a bit.

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

Oh what the Hell it was the first thing that came to mind (which possibly shows what kind of mind I have!!). I've tried a few ways to phrase this and this was the most obscure:

Q: Who was (allegedly) saved by their 'taint'?

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

Can I look up and see what the hell 'taint' is??

Later,
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~Binary is best~

CPrompt: That is the first part of the puzzle - how you solve it is your business (I have reference books at home that will do it for me but...).

Emps

Yeah, never mind. I think I just figured it out. :

Later,
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~Binary is best~

CPrompt: Does that mean you have the answer?

Emps

George Washington

Bugimus: Not the answer I was looking for but I'd be interested to know your reasoning (I have the horrible suspicion there may be more than one answer to this question).

Emps

Its gone awful quiet - I can provide clues if required (I thought this would be easy so I tried to make it difficult but may have gone too far).

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

Emps, my answer was a *long* shot. After thinking about it some more it doesn't even work at all. I just wanted to throw something out there to keep the dialogue moving.

What I had heard recently was related to how Washington had gotten small pox and survived it prior to the Revolutionary War. Historians have found evidence that the, um you guys , discussed the possibility of biological warfare by infecting the rebel troops with small pox. But they never did that so my answer was totally wrong.

I'm actually trying my best to answer these without search engines otherwise it would be way too easy. I couldn't help myself with the Emma Goldman, I had to look that one up.

I think I'm going to need a hint for your question.

Emps:
No that just means that I figured out what "taint" was.

Later,
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~Binary is best~

Bugimus: Well this was a deliberate attempt to make it difficult for search engines so you should feel free to use them if they help.

The first order of business is to find out what a taint is.

You then need to find a person whos life was saved by it (according quite a few sources this is true but it is usually classified as an urban myth - when I looked this up on the Internet things were split about 50:50 but that is the internet for you!!).

The tricky bit is the leap to the person and if we get that far and noone knows it then I'll give you a clue as to what they were saved from and it should be a race to see who posts first.

However, I suspect using the Internet was cheating on my behalf and I'm quite happy to hand this over to a more worthy question poser.

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

No worries about your question, this is cool. I'm off to discover the true meaning of taint!

I aplogise in advance for the etymology (esp. as being a bug you are more used to entymology!!).

Emps

To many big words, slow down, now what?
heh time to start a new thread. We really should after 50 or 60 so, but it's cool.

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