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Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 06-21-2004 04:05

An interesting interview with an intelligence official showing we are no further forward in removing Bin Laden and may in fact have missed our chances and actaully made him stornger:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,12469,1242638,00.html

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Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: 48°00ŽN 7°51ŽE
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 06-21-2004 14:58
quote:
Anonymous, who published an analysis of al-Qaida last year called Through Our Enemies' Eyes, thinks it quite possible that another devastating strike against the US could come during the election campaign, not with the intention of changing the administration, as was the case in the Madrid bombing, but of keeping the same one in place.

"I'm very sure they can't have a better administration for them than the one they have now," he said.
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Anonymous believes Mr Bush is taking the US in exactly the direction Bin Laden wants, towards all-out confrontation with Islam under the banner of spreading democracy.



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Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-21-2004 16:54

I have asked myself who would be more likely to win the next election if we suffer another devastating attack here in the states. I decided Bush would be more likely to win in that event.

This article tells me what we are doing is wrong. What I need to know is what we should be doing instead.

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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 06-21-2004 18:11

Bugs: Well I've made other suggestions in other threads:

1. Reducing need for oil. Saudi Arabia is the biggest Al Qaeda breeding ground and there are increasing signs of high level cooperation between the authorities and the terrorists - the slaughter of oil workers the other month and the escape of the terrorists and the whole business over the latest beheading including this recent report:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56478-2004Jun20.html

They certainly aren't our allies and may in fact be effectively our worst enemy in the world at the moment.

2. Stop acting unilaterally and start working with the international community.

3. Stop starting wars on shakey grounds.

etc., etc.

Current policy is actually playing further and further into the terrorists plans and making the world increasingly unsafe.

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Xpirex
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Still looking..
Insane since: Mar 2003

posted posted 06-22-2004 02:11
quote:
How Unfortunate Era, We Are Witnessing
by Syed Atiq ul Hassan

The well-known American writer John Pilger in his latest book ?The New Rulers of the World? writes, "war on terrorism is a charade, masking an all-powerful oppressor that dares not speak its name?.

Event by event, one after the other, since the 9/11 attacks in US, labelling reasons to eliminate terrorism, despotism, dictators and bringing peace and democracy, the world has been, helplessly and ludicrously, watching the extreme display of unilateralism, humiliation of international forums and the policy of might is right. The technological advancements transformed this world into a global-village, the facilitating inventors became invaders to use their high-tech weapons, mass communication, satellites etc to dominate this global-village according to their rule of the day. Consecutively, dam reasons are furnished by US to accomplish the untold plans by using the military might.

United Nation whose main charter was to maintain peace and provide international security failed to save weaker nations from world?s bullies. UN authority is accepted as long as it serves the purpose of the bullies. The UN Security Council resolution was used as sanctions to launch the gulf-war and the attack on Afghanistan when the majority in UN opposed the war on Iraq; the same authority was brusquely ignored.

Afghanistan was attacked by US with it?s willingly or unwillingly allies, on the assertions to capture Osama Bin Laden, dead or alive. According to an American study, 5000 civilians were bombed to death in stricken, impoverished Afghanistan, where the prime target Osama bin Laden got away clean, as did the Taliban ruler Mullah Omar and then US forces stationed permanently with keeping a CIA-backed dummy head Karzai on the fore front.

At the end of operation in Afghanistan with the grudgingly support from Pakistan, hundreds of prisoners were shipped to an American concentration camp in Cuba, where they have been held against all conventions of war and international law. No evidence of their alleged crimes has been produced. In the United States, many thousand people of Muslim background have disappeared, none of the been charged and as per new US law now FBI even has the power to go into libraries and find out who is reading what.

North Korea expelled UN nuclear inspectors, reopened plutonium processing laboratory, which was a direct and deadly serious threat not only for the Korean peninsula but the entire region. No practical action was taken against North Korea by US on the other hand overruling the voice of the majority in the world and in United Nation; Iraq has been invaded declaring reasons to disarm Iraq from WMD and Saddam?s regime. After the killing thousands of innocent people, demolishing entire infrastructure including museum, libraries, hospitals and banks; US leadership is now no more interested in Saddam Hussain and less worried about WMD. US Secretary of Defence and the architecture of the war on Iraq, Mr. Rumsfield said, in a recent statement that Saddam is not a priority now and it is not easy to find WMD without the help of Iraqis to point-out where these weapons could be hidden. The US-coalition failed with absurd reasons to maintain law & order and provide safety to archaeological treasures, hospitals, water storage, food depots and other important sites but showed great efficiency and remarkable speed in securing oil ministry, planning to replace Iraqi dinar with US dollar, allocating reconstruction contracts to US companies, appointing CIA-preferred Iraqis in setting-up Iraqi establishment under the head of retired US major general and a big arms dealer Jay M. Garner who has close ties with Israel. In 1997, Garner accepted an invitation from the Jewish Institute of National Security Affairs to visit Israel, later signed a statement drafted by the institute praising the Israeli security forces for exercising ?remarkable restrain? in dealing with the Palestinian uprising. All actions and castigations by the US are on Arab States on the name of war against terrorism yet total ignorance on Israel?s brutal aggression against the innocent depressed people of Palestine.

Now Syria is on the mercy of US actions; threats are being made against Syria to co-operate with US on its demands. The resistless win in Iraq has refueled the intentions of the hawks in Washington to speed-up the targets. US new imperialism demands not only quiet submissiveness from its victims but vocal loyal support from the sufferers. Any state can be on the clemency of US. The right or wrong for US depends on the situation. Who is friend and who is enemy also depends on the situation. Friend means the one who as long as heeds the US interest, Enemy means the one who may be good for the rest but doesn?t care about US. Are we back in the Mongolian age? What a bizarre period we are going through.

(The Writer is a Sydney based journalist and editor Tribune International Australia).



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MW
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: 48°00´N 7°51´E
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 06-22-2004 03:09

Although I have great doubts that a

quote:
Sydney based journalist and editor Tribune International Australia

would produce a text so full of grammar and spelling errors,

I´m hardly able to disagree with any of the major points being made.


They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance.
- last words of General John Sedgwick, 1864

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 06-22-2004 03:18

John Pilger's site:

http://www.johnpilger.com

and an interesting article on how we could be following a fair and just energy policy which would help Third World countries (thus restoring some of their trust in us) and helping cut our ties with fossil fuels (as it might as well be sooner rather than later):

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1243488,00.html

but, of course, wheres the profit in that?

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