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[quote] [b]kelownarealtor said:[/b] Now I see why nobody goes strict LOL its time hasn't come, cause theres no consistency, maybe. [/quote] Who exactly is nobody? I only code in strict, and I know DL only codes in strict. Most people here probably code in strict. It may be difficult to get a handle on it at first, and I will admit that you wil need to employ a few hacks if you want to do certain things, but pure CSS is the way to go. [quote] [b]kelownarealtor said:[/b] Short and long of it is though, good 'ol HTML with tables does a sweeter job, hands down [/quote] It would be more accurate to say that you are more comfortable with table-based layout at the moment, and thus you can make it look better with table than with pure CSS. As far as the actual tools go, though, pure CSS is the better than tables in every respect. Think of it as the difference between a hacksaw and a radial table saw. If you do not know how to operate the radial table saw, you are liable to cut off your arm or launch a piece of wood through your chest. Naturally, you will feel more comfortable using a simple hacksaw, and at that point in time the hacksaw will do a better job than the radial table saw [b]in your hands[/b]. This does not mean you should scrap the radial table saw and use a hacksaw for the rest of your life, though. Once you learn how to use the radial table saw, you will be able to accomplish tasks far more efficiently than with the hacksaw. Right now, you're still a bit gun shy around the radial table saw because it has sliced your beautiful design into ugly pieces. I will not lie to you and tell you that standards compliance is perfect in all browsers--it's not. But the best and brightest minds in the business are well aware that the radial table saw--CSS--is the way to go, and there are many resources out there to deal with most (if not all of) the snags you will run into. You've managed to put together a valid transitional page, and that is something to be proud of. As I said above, though, transitional is not an end point, it is a mid-way point. That is why they call it "transitional"--because it represents a checkpoint on the road from non-compliant design to compliant design. It would be a shame if you stopped here. [quote] [b]kelownarealtor said:[/b] I guess its Transitional for now, with TABLES until the standards level out. [/quote] You're going to have to wait quite a while for the "standards to level out." In fact, given what we've seen so far in browser development, I doubt we will [b]ever[/b] have a fully compliant browser. Standards will always be advancing and the browsers will always be one step behind. But that doesn't mean the bulk of the standards are not supported. The problem you are having right now is not due to lack of support for standards, but to your lack of experience with CSS. It is natural to be frustrated. But to attempt to shirk responsibility and place the blame on "standards" is irresponsible. There is no need to be disheartened. I would encourage you to continue to work toward a strict solution even as you implement your transitional solution. Take it one step at a time and familiarize yourself with the techniques and invariable workarounds. What you want to do can be accomplished in strict, and one of the CSS wizards here could probably create a mock-up for you, but the best way to learn is by getting your hands dirty. I don't have the time to really dig through your code at the moment (having spent far too long writing this post), but I will give it a look later on and see if I can't make some suggestions. In the meantime, keep moving forward. Don't stop now--you're only halfway there. ___________________________ Suho: [url=http://www.liminality.org]www.liminality.org[/url] | [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/4837]Cell 270[/url] | [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/5689]Sig Rotator[/url] | [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/22173]the Fellowship of Sup[/url] | "Hooray for linguistic idiots and yak milk!"
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