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Lord_Fukutoku Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Back in West Texas... How disappointing Insane since: Jul 2002	posted 04-18-2005 18:36 http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/04/14/mit.prank.reut/index.html?section=cnn_tech Reminds me of times in school when we'd have some insane research paper to do, and you start it with 8-10 pages of legitimate work, and end it with the same, then fill the middle with whatever, then see if the prof even notices. Or the people who "cut corners" on programming assignments and hard-coded the output, hoping the prof would just use the test data they gave us. Scary how many times that actually worked too... Nice to see that the real world follows what you learned in school, even when you thought you were cheating the system.
warjournal Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Insane since: Aug 2000	posted 04-18-2005 18:59 quote: ...on programming assignments and hard-coded the output... I knew some students that did that. There was one in particular that was seriously into the 50/50 rule. That is, 50% code and 50% comment. He would throw some absolute rubbish into the comments and the prof never (apparently) caught it. When it came to programming, I would get all convoluted and the code would look like it wouldn't work. But, when you ran it, it was all hunky dorry. That used to seriously piss off my old 'instructor'. I once did a bubble sort that was bit-by-bit (recursive) and used xor to swap without an intermediate, and he went all red.
synax Maniac (V) Inmate From: Cell 666 Insane since: Mar 2002	posted 04-18-2005 21:31 ^^^ I've done that on numerous occasions throughout my University classes. Profs are, for the most part, complete idiots. Those who can't do, teach. Those who teach what they can't do also can't correctly verify working programs... I've submitted programs that don't even compile with false output and have gotten 100% on all.
poi Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: France Insane since: Jun 2002	posted 04-18-2005 22:23 We were only 24 in my promotion so hard coding the output was really risky. On the other hand, my instructors were often puzzled by my code and that of a friend. Unfortunately when they didn't understood a piece of code though it worked they rated it 15/20, go figure. Anyway I had a lot of fun to give unlikely names to my programs and use funny wallpapers for the screenshots enclosed with the source code.
Skaarjj Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: :morF Insane since: May 2000	posted 04-22-2005 16:52 quote: synax said: Profs are, for the most part, complete idiots Eh, I think that's a gross generalisation that belittles the vast majority of educators who are genuinely good at their jobs. It's not a case of 'those who can't do, teach' becuase some of the best teachers I know in IT are professionals, very sucessful professionals, in their respective fields. I think it's sad if your experience of educators has been this... crap, but please don't take them as an indication of the general level of expertise in the field. I'm a son of teachers, a brother of teachers and was a teacher at one point myself, and I know damn well that the industry is filled with good, competant, professional people. Justice 4 Pat Richard

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Lord_Fukutoku
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Back in West Texas... How disappointing
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted 04-18-2005 18:36

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/04/14/mit.prank.reut/index.html?section=cnn_tech

Reminds me of times in school when we'd have some insane research paper to do, and you start it with 8-10 pages of legitimate work, and end it with the same, then fill the middle with whatever, then see if the prof even notices. Or the people who "cut corners" on programming assignments and hard-coded the output, hoping the prof would just use the test data they gave us. Scary how many times that actually worked too...

Nice to see that the real world follows what you learned in school, even when you thought you were cheating the system.

warjournal
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted 04-18-2005 18:59

quote:
...on programming assignments and hard-coded the output...

I knew some students that did that. There was one in particular that was seriously into the 50/50 rule. That is, 50% code and 50% comment. He would throw some absolute rubbish into the comments and the prof never (apparently) caught it.

When it came to programming, I would get all convoluted and the code would look like it wouldn't work. But, when you ran it, it was all hunky dorry. That used to seriously piss off my old 'instructor'. I once did a bubble sort that was bit-by-bit (recursive) and used xor to swap without an intermediate, and he went all red.

synax
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 666
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted 04-18-2005 21:31

^^^ I've done that on numerous occasions throughout my University classes. Profs are, for the most part, complete idiots. Those who can't do, teach. Those who teach what they can't do also can't correctly verify working programs...

I've submitted programs that don't even compile with false output and have gotten 100% on all.

poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted 04-18-2005 22:23

We were only 24 in my promotion so hard coding the output was really risky.
On the other hand, my instructors were often puzzled by my code and that of a friend. Unfortunately when they didn't understood a piece of code though it worked they rated it 15/20, go figure. Anyway I had a lot of fun to give unlikely names to my programs and use funny wallpapers for the screenshots enclosed with the source code.

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted 04-22-2005 16:52

quote:
synax said:

Profs are, for the most part, complete idiots

Eh, I think that's a gross generalisation that belittles the vast majority of educators who are genuinely good at their jobs. It's not a case of 'those who can't do, teach' becuase some of the best teachers I know in IT are professionals, very sucessful professionals, in their respective fields. I think it's sad if your experience of educators has been this... crap, but please don't take them as an indication of the general level of expertise in the field. I'm a son of teachers, a brother of teachers and was a teacher at one point myself, and I know damn well that the industry is filled with good, competant, professional people.

Justice 4 Pat Richard