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AT
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Gainesboro, TN, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

 posted posted 06-15-2005 05:19

I'm working on a page that uses frames.
I'm being asked to make the frame that contains "forum/index.php" to have a much greater height. So that the full forum is seen on the page and there isn't any need for scrollbars.

Does anyone know how to work with them to do this?

code:
<html>
 <head>
 <title> - Forum</title>
 <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style.css">
 <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
 <meta name="generator" content="Manual">
 <meta name="robots" content="index, follow">
 <meta name="revisit-after" content="20 days">

 </head>


<frameset rows="119,*" frameborder="0" border="0" framespacing="0">
<frame name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" noresize src="frametop.php" target="mainFrame" >
<frameset cols="*,738,*" frameborder="0" border="0" framespacing="0">
<frame name="mainFrameLeft" src="frameblank.php" scrolling="NO" target="mainFrame">
<frame name="mainFrame" src="forum/index.php" scrolling="auto" target="mainFrame">
<frame name="mainFrameRight" src="frameblank.php" scrolling="NO" target="mainFrame">
hope
<noframes>
<body bgcolor="#000000" text="#FFFFFF" link="#FFFFFF" vlink="#C0C0C0" alink="#FF0000">
<p align="center"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>This Site's uses Frames, update your Browser !!!</b></font></p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
</body>

</noframes>
</frameset>
</frameset>



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(Edited by AT on 06-15-2005 05:20)
DL-44
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From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

 posted posted 06-15-2005 05:39

I don't see how it could have a "much" greater height.....from the looks of it, the only other frame taking up vertical space is only 119 pixels tall...
The only thing you can do, while maintaining the frames, is to cut tht number down. But that is obviously no gaurantee that the whole forum will fit on the page...there's no way to ensure that no matter what you do...

The bigger question though is why frames at all??? The message at the bottom should be changed to "the web has far greater technology, update your code!!!"

AT
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Gainesboro, TN, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

 posted posted 06-15-2005 06:40

Haha!

I agree totally!

I've made the suggestion to switch from frames and they refuse.
Hopefully when I next speak with them they'll see that I can't guarantee it to work.

Thanks for your time DL, it was appreciated.

later

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DL-44
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From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

 posted posted 06-15-2005 17:49

So the next question is - who are these people, and why do they insist on frames? (and waht is the working arrangement?)

Of course, to clarify - even without frames, there is simply no way to ensure that the entire page will fit on screen without scrolling (or losing content).
AT
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Gainesboro, TN, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

 posted posted 06-15-2005 21:16

Hey DL, having a good day so far? I know I'm not.

They are some clients, really nice people and I've enjoyed working with them.

They just really like their frames.

I tried doing this with an iframe, worked nicely but when clicking on links in the iframe it opens in the whole page rather than remaining in the iframe.

I never want to say "iframe" again.

I'll be speaking with them later today.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

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DL-44
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From: under the bed
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 posted posted 06-15-2005 23:55

suggestion 1: inform them that frames are an obsolete, useless technology.

suggestion 2: inform them that there is simply no way to ensure that any given page will fit entirely on the screen without scrolling, as there is simply no way to account for every user's set up and browser settings.

suggestion 3: the importance of whatever is taking up that 119px at the top of the screen needs to be weighed against the importance of having the page better fit on screen...if it can be cut down, cut it down. If not, there isn't much more that can be done.
AT
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Gainesboro, TN, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

 posted posted 06-16-2005 06:36

Hey DL,

So I have it setup with two iframes now, the second frame contains the forum (PHPBB) and from time to time as you're browsing around it kicks you out of the frame and loads it into the entire page.

Otherwise the sizes are fine now.

Any suggestions on that one? haha!

I'm going to go take some pills now, maybe a bath with a toaster.

Thanks!

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redroy
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From: 1393
Insane since: Dec 2003

 posted posted 06-18-2005 07:11

Just taking a swing at the dark here... This entire site uses frames? Or are you just trying to get the forum to fit within the site? I ask because phpbb is super easy to modify, if you needed help with that.


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