Topic awaiting preservation: Top Ten dumb things that Mr. Bush said in 2004.

Top 10 Dumb Things Bush Said in 2004
In Politics, submitted by scienott on 10/17/2005 6:57:17 PM

#10: "I want you to know. Karyn is with us. A West Texas girl, just like me." -Nashville, Tenn., May 27, 2004

#9: "Then you wake up at the high school level and find out that the illiteracy level of our children are appalling." -Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

#8: "Free societies are hopeful societies. And free societies will be allies against these hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the whim of a hat." -Washington, D.C., Sept. 17, 2004

#7: "I want to thank the astronauts who are with us, the courageous spacial entrepreneurs who set such a wonderful example for the young of our country." -Washington, D.C. Jan. 14, 2004

#6: "We will make sure our troops have all that is necessary to complete their missions. That's why I went to the Congress last September and proposed fundamental - supplemental funding, which is money for armor and body parts and ammunition and fuel." -Erie, Pa., Sept. 4, 2004

#5: "After standing on the stage, after the debates, I made it very plain, we will not have an all-volunteer army. And yet, this week - we will have an all-volunteer army!" -Daytona Beach, Fla., Oct. 16, 2004

#4: "Tribal sovereignty means that; it's sovereign. I mean, you're a - you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities." -Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004

#3: "I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." -second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

#2: "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." -Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004

#1: "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." -Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004


Man, those are really stupid!!

Try these;

http://www.geocities.com/pearly9000/htmls/bush-faces.html

http://www.thedubyareport.com/quotes.html

Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
Isaac Asimov
US science fiction novelist & scholar (1920 - 1992)

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WebShaman said:

Man, those are really stupid!!

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Those are actually pretty lame...

I know he said *far* worse things that....

=)

For those who speak french (not necessarily, but it's even funnier), this is incredibly and critically similar to some of Jean-Claude Van Damme's best gems:

Here's a few
... and 1 more

(there are loads of them in french)

It's always fun to laugh about these kinds of gaffs. I admit Dubya makes quite a lot of them.

But it is also true that high intelligence is not the most important quality for a good leader.

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I think he's a pretty good president...albeit one prone to a few Freudian slips.

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Bugimus said:

But it is also true that high intelligence is not the most important quality for a good leader.

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Perhaps not, but if I was American, I would certainly much prefer a literate president who knows what he is talking about - Bush seems not to have a clue about what is going on; (young) people are reading and listening to him, for God's sake... His English is appalling. On top of which he just makes me laugh, I cannot take him seriously whatsoever.
It is also just another proof that he would never had made it without his relatives.

A leader? You must be joking, he is a comedian.

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Bugimus said:

But it is also true that high intelligence is not the most important quality for a good leader.

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No, but moderate intelligence and the ability to speak your own language certainly are high on the importance list.

And I am at a loss as to what "good leader" and "George W. Bush" have to do with one another....

He is quite truly the biggest farce yet to fill the office.

DL-44, I wish I had your eloquence

kimson,

I would very much prefer to have an eloquent, intelligent and charismatic president. We had one of those in President Clinton. He is without question a man of high intelligence and tremendous charisma. In fact, whenever I see him or think about him now I smile simply because he is just that likable. Unfortunately, many of his policies were flawed and were harmful to the country. I suffered through each of those 8 years!

When I consider who I want to run this country, I first and foremost look to the policies a candidate will fight for. I don't even look to personal morality as much as public policy positions. I would much prefer to have a president who was personally immoral but implemented good public policy over a saint who wouldn't.

DL-44,

Considering your political views, I can see why you would feel he is the "biggest farce", but I don't see how you can objectively say he is a man of less than moderate intelligence.

I wasn't saying that Dubya was a "good leader". I was speaking in general terms in that sentence. I would rate his personal leadership qualities as moderate and give him a C-. I can call him an "ok" leader at this point. Let's face it, Dubya is no Ronald Reagan; he was a great leader.

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Maybe my expectations are too high, but I would consider a C- as well below moderate.

We are talking about the president of the United States here. A C- leader is a farce. And that opinion, which obviously it is, has very little to do with my political views. The man is a bufoon, plain and simple.

DL, I think he likely speaks his own language fairly well...it is English he has problems with. ROTFLMFAO

BTW, on behalf of buffoons everywhere I demand you retract that slur.

Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
Isaac Asimov
US science fiction novelist & scholar (1920 - 1992)

The C- is for his leadership qualities. I would give him a B on intelligence.

I have no quarrel in having high expectations for our leaders. I also respect your opinions and you're quite entitled to your opinion about this president.

I am looking forward to the next election. I think we are very likely faced with a presidential sequence of Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton. There are very few republicans that I can currently see that could succesfully oppose her.

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Bugs: what about McCain running republican in 2008? I think he stands a chance against Clinton; as much as Kerry had against Bush in 2004.

However back on topic: I would have to rate literacy and oratorical ability higher on my list of attributes for a successful president than intelligence. A president surrounds themselves with advisors who are supposedly more knowledgeable than himself. Any wise and intelligent person knows where to look for information. One of the president's primary jobs is shaping policy ideologically and presenting policy eloquently. They serve as a figurehead for the nation.

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I would give him a B on intelligence.

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Based on what? Take away his name, and his lilly-white heritage, and what you have is a, sad-sack, drug-enjoyed, wannabe-professional, who failed in his family's oil business.

http://bushwatch.tripod.com/LiesAboutBush/id10.html
Read it or not.

" The study determined the following IQs of each president as accurate to within five percentage points:
147 .. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D) 132 .. Harry Truman (D)
122 .. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
174 .. John F. Kennedy (D)
126 .. Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
155 .. Richard M. Nixon (R)
121 .. Gerald Ford (R)
175 .. James E. Carter (D)
105 .. Ronald Reagan (R)
098 .. George HW Bush (R)
182 .. William J. Clinton (D)
091 .. George W. Bush (R)


or, in IQ order:

182 .. William J. Clinton (D)
175 .. James E. Carter (D)
174 .. John F. Kennedy (D)
155 .. Richard M. Nixon (R)
147 .. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
132 .. Harry Truman (D)
126 .. Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
122 .. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
121 .. Gerald Ford (R)
105 .. Ronald Reagan (R)
098 .. George HW Bush (R)
091 .. George W. Bush (R)

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This last one is just plain silly...but fun.

Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
Isaac Asimov
US science fiction novelist & scholar (1920 - 1992)

Bush is smart as in a 'smart-arse.'

A smart-arse is someone who can sit on an icecream cone and tell you what flavor it is. =)

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A smart-arse is someone who can sit on an icecream cone and tell you what flavor it is.

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For me that's original.
That's a good one.

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Um Zynx did you mean to point to a page that debunks the IQ test hoax with the numbers you listed?



.:[ Never resist a perfect moment ]:.

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Um Zynx did you mean to point to a page that debunks the IQ test hoax with the numbers you listed?

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Yes.

DL gave GW a B on intelligence. I wouldn't. And the site shows that much information that is out there, is erroneous information. So on this issue, I don't think there is much definitive proof, wither way, that GW deserves a B. Yet I think GW was a C student since his college years, and was never an over-achiever.

Even if he can be considered intelligent, then we must remove "intelligence" from the "Presidential Requisite".

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Zynx said:

DL gave GW a B on intelligence.

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Once again, you are very confused as to who said what

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DL gave GW a B on intelligence.

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I was wrong wrong wrong! DL is right right right!

It was BUGs who posted that. Sorry DL.

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We are talking about the president of the United States here. A C- leader is a farce. And that opinion, which obviously it is, has very little to do with my political views. The man is a bufoon, plain and simple.

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DL deserves this wisdom. I agree with his perception.

Dam! When I miss it, I miss IT!

I need a nap.

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Yep, t'was me who gave D a B

cfb, you make some very good points about oratorial skills being necessary to "sell" policies to the public. I cringe everytime I hear Dubya speak.

McCain in 2008? Yeah, I think he will definitely make a go of it, but there's no chance he could beat Hillary if the election were held today.

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McCain in 2008? Yeah, I think he will definitely make a go of it, but there's no chance he could beat Hillary if the election were held today.

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Why do you think that?

I think Tom DeLay will run in '08...

Ramasax
www.AmericanSerf.us

Because Bush's popularity is low right now because of the oil prices and Iraq. So there would be a natural appeal to the alternative party. Also, I don't think conservatives would rally behind McCain in sufficient numbers so getting out to vote would be a problem. I also think Hillary would be a HUGE favorite on the Democrat side (recent poll had her getting 46% of the Democrat vote for candidate). I think she would get a much bigger share of the woman vote than a male candidate and well over the 90% of the black vote required to elect any Democrat in a national election. That's my rough run down as to why I think that.

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No matter what GW has to say, the illegal imprisonment of PADILLA, in Guantanamo, should not be a firestorm, for those who hate the actions of the US government.

Sorry, I think I'm off track on this thread.

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Walken for president!

ahem, sorry, just had to say it.


Justice 4 Pat Richard

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Skaarjj said:

Walken for president!ahem, sorry, just had to say it.Justice 4 Pat Richard

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say it again... say it again! =) HB btw.