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Tao, i'm just busting your oysters over the issue...you pulled out the 'chuks twice in one thread and the jerk in me went for it. Besides, gun threads always go south. I know my views are askew but the underlying forces that would cause someone to put a gun in someone's mouth as a form of persuasion would do the same with a knife or a baseball bat. The difficulty for me is to see the issue of interpersonal violence being limited by or exclusive to guns when I have seen it expressed more often in other forms.
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