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Your Text: Insert Slimies » Insert UBB Code » Close Last Tag \| All Tags UBB Help	White Hawk, I think you are starting to rant there, perhaps? [quote]and where it is a dire offence to even have a screwdriver to hand in one's car, I have to rely on my inability to restrain my psychosis when under threat..[/quote] and [quote]Guns don't beget violence - that's like saying every man is a rapist because he's got an offensive weapon in his underwear[/quote] It seems to me from your post that you lament handguns being made illegal, is this so? Just to remind you, we have recently been marking the tenth anniversary of the murder of sixteen children and one of their teachers in a small Scottish town called Dunblane, see this [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/gun/Story/0,,1708173,00.html] Guardian Report[/url]. This quote that is being used here "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." is almost meaningless. I know guns don't have little arms and legs and run around shooting people. The easier it is for some trigger happy nutter to get a gun, the more likely it is that we will witness further carnage from GUNS carried by people. You just would not get the same amout of harm without a firearm. Pugzly, it's great to hear your views on this, I respect your experience in this matter. I am having a hard time trying to find reliable sources of statistics for the USA in the area you mention re; carrying guns and level of crime. Any links you could throw my way would be greatly appreciated. [quote] [b]DL-44 said:[/b] quote:Tao said:Illegally owned guns were once legally owned by someone and somehow along the line they have become illegal or illegally owned.So does that mean that, since handguns are illegal in the UK (if I understand correctly), that there are none there? <g>Just for the record - I do not own a gun. I have never owned a gun. It is unlikely that I will ever own a gun.However, it is purely silly to think that laws banning guns will make guns go away. It is purely silly to presume that guns lead to violence.I also entirely fail to understand how training with and use of one type of weapon is acceptable, but a different type of weapon is not? [/quote] Jestah has the correct interpretation of what I was saying [quote]I took his statement to be a clear indication that all illegal weapons started off being legal weapons before changing hands into someone who is willing to sell or distribute them to criminals.[/quote] I feel I also detect a <g>rin in the question. I think there are a lot less guns available now than if there had not been a ban. Guns may not always lead to violence, but they sure as hell don't lead to flower arranging. Guns are made to kill people. Training with nunchaku in martial art requires a lot of thought, concentration and balance. It is one of the reasons for using them that you [b[must[/b] apply all three or else you whack yourself about the head. Guns, you can just point and shoot and kill dozens of people. This for me is the difference. I realise that banning guns will not make them go away, but that does not mean that we should carry on selling them. I know it is a different matter in the USA compared to the UK. The UK has always (well in recent history anyway) had stronger laws on firearms :) Just before writing this I have been trying find as many reliable sources of facts regarding the ease of firearm ownership and crime (with the use of guns) in the USA UK and Europe. If anyone has any good links please send them to me, or post them up, that would be fab. [url=http://tao.serveit.org/tao.htm]::tao::[/url]::[url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/5635] [IMG]http://tao.serveit.org/sigs/taoboogie.gif[/IMG] ::cell::[/url] Loading...
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