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[quote=Lord_Fukutoku]Not trying to take a shot at anyone, but I just ran across this quote: "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity" Sigmund Freud[/quote] That used to be my signature on forums! [quote=DL-44]However, it is purely silly to think that laws banning guns will make guns go away.[/quote] Same thing happened with prohibition [quote=Jestah]Although I don't support the banning of all guns, if they were banned it would greatly reduce the amount of guns produced.[/quote] I'm sure if we banned alcohol, there would be less drunk-driving. But that won't make the weekend BBQ drinkers any happier. You can't penalize the law abiding for the actions of the law breaking. [quote=DL-44]Look around - the proof is abundant that making something illegal does not reduce it's manufacture, sale, or use.[/quote] Exactly. Look at the AWB (Assault Weapons Ban). It didn't reduce the number of weapons on the street. It merely made them more expensive. People paid a lot more for something. Dealers got rich. [quote=Tao]Guns, you can just point and shoot and kill dozens of people. This for me is the difference.[/quote] You could also drive your car into a crowd of people and have the same result. You can't blame the tool for the actions of the user. Doing so means you should put Budweiser out of business. And Ford. The misuse of their products kills a HECK of a lot of people (not picking on either company - just making an example). However, the PROPER use of their products is generally not hazardous. Handguns have their place, too. Competitive shooting, hunting, and self defense are all examples. And competitive shooting and hunting are BIG business. User education goes a long way. First, I'm a firm believer in requiring education before purchasing a firearm. Now - I'm not saying you have to go through a class every time you want to buy one, but you should before you get your first one. In my state, you have to go through training in order to get a permit to carry a concealed pistol. But you don't have to go through training to buy one. I don't agree with that. I also don't agree with gun owners not being prosecuted for not reporting a gun theft. That's just wrong. And I'm all for the gun owner being held responsible for damages caused by his/her firearm - REGARDLESS of if they are the ones that did it (your son goes out and shoots someone, you're also responsible). Make sure that gun owners are properly storing firearms and thefts of firearms will plummet. Many gun laws just don't make sense. The state of California outlawed the 50 caliber rifle. Yet, there is not a SINGLE reported crime involving one. NOT ONE! [quote=At0mic_PC]While this is true in a sense, I'd be more confident in someone like Pugzly or Lord_Fukutoku taking the shot if I were turned into someones body shield rather than the other guy who thought he could just point and kill.[/quote] Thanks for the confidence. Like I said above - training should be mandatory. I can't count the number of people I've talked to who apply for a CCW, and say they've owned a gun for years, have never fired it, and now want to carry it. And, when I get them on the range, they couldn't hit ground if they tried. Yes, that's scarey. But it doesn't warrant outlawing guns. It should warrant (more) required training. [quote=Tao]So sixteen children murdered by the legally owned guns of a idiot is just bollocks for me to mention is it?[/quote] No, it's not bullocks. It's truly tragic when those things happen. But let's look at WHY those people were killed, and the person who did it. Not how. Take away the "how", and the subject will just find another way. It won't preclude him/her from committing a crime. [quote=Tao]Forcing a confrontation by relinquishing surprise and quadrupling the adrenal threat of your assailant, humm.[/quote] Not only that, but in some jurisdictions, you might be crossing the line from victim to attacker. I won't go into legal issues like that here. [url=http://www.justice4pat.com/] [img]http://www.innervation.com/dev/j4p_link.gif[/img] [/url]
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