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Ok, this seems to be state of the art for real. 1) http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/overview.html#HowWell <--- this is true. Read it 900 times. Basically, it COMPILES from java to js and html and css. And compatible scripts at that. average size of a whole script seems small. So it doesn't need java on the client. But it uses java for the architecture and development. And is eclipse friendly. And can run on top of Java only, without a browser. State of the art.
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