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Morons are needed (some considerations on evolution)

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Your Text: Insert Slimies » Insert UBB Code » Close Last Tag \| All Tags UBB Help	This is deep :D thanks kimmy. [quote] does it mean it goes inversely exponential at some point? The more "sophisticated" or "perfect" (by lack of better term) we get, the less able to evolution? Therefore the less adaptive [/quote] Hmmmm. This holds true for Sudoku and most genetic algorithms at least. The closer you get to the solution, the slower the resolution progresses, and it is exponential. In a population of Sudokus, what happens, because what determines theyre "fitness" is based on a lot of fixed input and very strict rules, is that "excellent beings" tend to look alike (since they all tend towards the same unique solution). So the reproduction makes for a lot lense genes exchange... and mutation becomes the only source for evolution. On to adressing this: [quote] perfection is realistic; it is just not measurable. [/quote] I disagree, and this sentence echoes what I meant about quantum physics perspective. In quantum physics, what exists exists [i]because[/i] it is measurable (and the other way round), the rest is "undefined", or better yet, is subject to the Paradox defined by Schroedinger, and is "everything it could be at the same time" (the cat is dead and alive at the same time). In other words, while classic physics (physics being taken, here, as the science which most accurately describes reality) could accept what you've said as perfectly true, it doesn't make sense at all in quantum physics: "translated" to that perspective, it would lose sense on the "not measurable" bit because then... it would not exist, it would exist in many different possible states depending on [i]how you observe it.[/i] Eg. a perfect object would either not exist, or would be perfect only for the purpose for which you observe it. scratches head.... [quote] Isn't perfection beyond being ideally suited to one's immediate environment at some point? Isn't it more global, like being ideally suited to any environment at any time? [/quote] This one is difficult and interesting too. Being suited to any environment anytime is what I want to prove wrong... and it can be proven wrong: there are parts of the universe where nothing, regardless of it's form, can keep existing, or can keep existing in a controlled state. Simple examples: the inside of a Sun where matter is transformed all the time and physic laws bend, or the inside of a black hole, where matter breaks through space and time. A couple of places in the universe simply don't allow a living being to keep on living, and the same applies for anything material you put in such conditions. But what you asked makes a lot of sense anyway: being ideally suited to one's environment will "fail" as the rest evolves. That says a lot about the purpose of death and reproduction: evolution would not work without them. The human model has managed, I think, to reach a far better adaptation than any other living specie, one good indicator is that we have one of the broadest populations on this planet (insects and bacterias do quite well too, and are, indeed, assumed to be potential replacers if our species disappears). And what makes the human model a "bit better" is that while we can't evolve our genetic structure over time, we can, during a lifetime, evolve our behavioral / psychic structure (it is intended to evolve), making us able to use our "deterministic" bodies in very different ways depending on the needs. ....that's all I can come up with as an answer to your questions, it leaves ground for plenty of other questions and reactions. Loading...
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