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[quote][b]jade said:[/b] How am I persecuting homosexuals? Am I torturing them?...throwing stones at them. Talking bad about how they treat one another as humans? How am I damaging their reputations? As humans apart from their sexual preferences they are equal to me. I relate to this part of them always.[/quote] Are you really this dense, or is it an act based on internet anonyminity? You say that as humans, homosexuals are equal to you, yet you want to forbid them the right to marry and form legal unions with each other. You are fobidding them a basic societal right available to everyone else in the country, purely based on the gender of their significant other. [b]That is persecution[/b], pure and simple. Earlier in the thread you linked "studies" on how homosexuals are alcohol depressives with death wishes or something equally retarded. That would fall under propagating false information about them that is damaging and hurtful. [quote][b]jade said:[/b] Come on ..Web..your guilty of judging my character as I am not a Christian? Just because I speak against homosexuality does not make me a bad person in cahoots with intolerance. I could say your intolerant of Christians or me so how does that make you different in how you accuse me. [/quote] He is judging your character based on what you have posted here in this thread and in others on this forum. We only have the words you use to express yourself, and frankly, he's not the only one that's come to that conclusion. My guess is that WS is intolerant of the idiocy that you continually express without apparently thinking, really thinking, about what you are saying. Jesus went among the sick, the diseased, the unclean, the scum of the earth to spread his gospel. He didn't just spread the Word to those who were societally acceptable to the culture of his time, and it shocked his apostles several times that the Son of God would associate with pariahs. J esus was about forgiveness and acceptance, and he practiced his own teachings. He accepted others, and taught them when they asked for guidance, [b]but he did not force his views on anyone that was unwilling to accept them[/b]. He even forgave those who crucified him "Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do." Your words here don't follow those teachings. Your words here show how intolerant you are of anyone that doesn't fit into your perfect worldview of Christianity. Why is your love for your spouse pure and holy and acceptable because he is male and the love of two people wrong and unholy and unacceptable because they are the same gender? Love is recognizing your soulmate. Another soul that completes yours, and forms something greater than the two of you. It's a joining. Who are you to say that the souls of two men or two women aren't meant to become one? Who are you to say that God didn't allow these souls to meet and recognize each other, no matter what physical form they occupy? The soul is part of God's divinity expressed in our human form, and you have no right to say whether or not those two souls belong together or not, just because you don't like the flesh they are encased in. As for your Wikipedia example, I'll have to let someone else rebut that. You seem to assume that because the Church was a vehicle for the expansion of Western Civilization, that means it was a good thing. In the Middle Ages, the church was probably more a political machine than it was a religious one. Many men went into the priesthood because it was a path to secular power wrapped up in a religous coating. There was so much happening on many levels at that time. It wasn't just the church expanding and generously helping to promote activities you mentioned. You can't look at them in a vaccuum without looking at what was happening to society as a whole at that time (or at the time the bible was "originally" written for that matter). _____________________ [sigrotate][img]http://coeurdefeu.com/sigs/asylum_sig04a.gif[/img]|[img]http://coeurdefeu.com/sigs/asylum_sig03b.gif[/img]|[img]http://coeurdefeu.com/sigs/rhyssa_oct06_asylum_06.gif[/img][/sigrotate] [url=http://coeurdefeu.com]coeur de feu[/url] :: [url=http://www.grimwell.com]Grimwell Online[/url] Qui sème le vent récolte la tempête!
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