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Tyberius Prime
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 07-29-2006 10:33

My company (again) tries to standardize on 'titles on links' for search engine friendliness ( accessibility is second ;( ),
and to my mind, titles on text links are bloody damn stupid.

What's your take on this?

reisio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Florida
Insane since: Mar 2005

posted posted 07-29-2006 13:04

I find them damn stupid most of the time, but if (for whatever reason) you have very iconized nav buttons or the like, then they're useful (even if the implementations across each browser vary so much).

H][RO
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Australia
Insane since: Oct 2002

posted posted 07-29-2006 15:03

Its fairly redundant from an accessibility point of view, but doesnt have a negative effect in any way i don't think? Maybe annoying for screen readers perhaps is the only disadvantage i can see.

I use them alot for icons in my application, but this is because they dont have text accompanying.

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 07-29-2006 15:30

i for once find them very useful to provide additional information on where the link is going.

reisio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Florida
Insane since: Mar 2005

posted posted 07-29-2006 20:30
quote:
H][RO said:

but doesnt have a negative effect in any way i don't think?


Eh...some people use them religiously and it can get really annoying. Like a nav menu with a link that says "Ooga"..._and_ a title="Ooga"; so when you hover over Ooga, you get another Ooga right on top of it - and if the text isn't exactly the same, you might end up with title attribute text hiding what's under it.

Take for example http://www.udm4.com/ which has some extra text on some items, but for most of them it's just redundant and annoying.

poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Norway
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 07-29-2006 20:48

As other said above, it's ok if the title attribute does not repeat the content of its node. Otherwise it's pointless and annoying.

reisio: Duh, that udm4 thing is a joke. It claims to be an 'Accessible Website Menu' but the sub-menus don't show up with JavaScript disabled.

H][RO
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Australia
Insane since: Oct 2002

posted posted 07-30-2006 03:42
quote:

reisio said:

quote:

H][RO said:but doesnt have a negative effect in any way i don't think?


Eh...some people use them religiously and it can get really annoying. Like a nav menu with a link that says "Ooga"..._and_ a title="Ooga"; so when you hover over Ooga, you get another Ooga right on top of it - and if the text isn't exactly the same, you might end up with title attribute text hiding what's under it.Take for example http://www.udm4.com/ which has some extra text on some items, but for most of them it's just redundant and annoying.



I understand this, but for me tooltips dont come up unless i hover over the button for a few seconds.. So even if the text is the same as the button i don't particularly see it as a problem.

Maybe other browsers show tooltips as soon as you hover? Then it would be annoying.



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