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Your Text: Insert Slimies » Insert UBB Code » Close Last Tag \| All Tags UBB Help	[quote] [b]poi said:[/b] Hello and welcome. I'm not against being pragmatic and cutting corners at times, but you know, when you make a website, as in write HTML + CSS pages, you'd rather go by the standards. Which standards emanate from the W3C. Right now computer says no : your site in not valid. [/quote] Hello Poi, :) Whilst I understand why w3c has created a set of standards for us all, a site which does not pass w3c validation does not mean that the site is bad in any way. I'm aware that it doesn't validate, but whilst it does not validate, it displays correctly in the browsers the vast majority of us use. So long as it displays correctly in IE & FF I'm happy. BTW, I didn't build that website, i just mentioned it because i like the way the marquee has been used (the top one). The client wanted a 'news ticker' type thing, so i gave him one which he can easily edit. If he said "i want a news ticker" and I said "no you don't", he may have just gone to another company which would give him what he asked for. I could have talked him out of it in more constructive manner with regards to it being distracting, etc..., but personally, I don't think it's that bad, and the client is/was happy with it. [quote] [b]DL-44 said:[/b] 'what the customer wants' in regard to web design is something that needs to be shaped, at least in part, by the web designer/developer. [/quote] I agree entirely. [quote] [b]poi said:[/b] As for the SEO argument about the second marquee, have you ever heard about display:none; and semantic markup ? [/quote] I don't want to use hidden text in any form, hence not using display:none; . I'm aware of semantic markup, but haven't really looked that deeply into it, I'll take your advice and read up on it. I worked on that site a couple of years ago, the client was a sole trader and asked the company i worked for at the time to help him with his rankings. All i did was bang a marquee full of keywords at the foot of his pages and his orders went through the roof, so much so that he had to employ a full time member of staff to help him with the increase in orders. I'm not trying to blow my own trumpet here, just trying to explain why I'm defending the marquee tag in this thread. However, I don't use that particular method these days. [quote] [b]poi said:[/b] Cut the crap a.k.a table based layout, font tags, marquee, multiple HEAD, BODY and HTML tags, document.write( navigationMarkup ), ... and your sites will be lighter, more accessible, work in more browsers and have better ranking in search engines.It takes some time and efforts to switch from oldschool HTML to proper (X)HTML + CSS but it's really worth it. In the end you'll serve your customers better. [/quote] That site is an Actinic site (version 5 i seem to remember), the code is generated from god knows how many templates and the resulting generated code is rather dense (or, to be honest, a right bloody mess!). Not sure if the more recent versions of actinic generate a friendlier code as I've not worked with it for a good while now, but somehow i doubt it. Like i say, i worked on the seo side of that site ages ago. When i build a website from scratch i do use CSS for all font styling and positioning. I've never liked farting around with tables and only use them if i need to display information in a table format. Although I am still a tad old school with my html. (which i guess is obvious to you all ;) [quote] [b]Suho1004 said:[/b] My bad. There is indeed a marquee tag in there. But apparently it's not a pure implementation, because it doesn't seem to run without javascript (not java, by the way... the two are very different things). Try viewing the page with javascript disabled to see what I mean. [/quote] The contents of the marquee(s) are included from external files (which makes it easier for the client to edit), which could explain this. Although I'm not 100% sure, my knowledge of java/javascript leaves a lot to be desired. I would like to say that I do respect and appreciate the knowledge, views and opinions of everybody here. I'm not here to argue or dissagree, I'm here to further my skills and to be an active member of this forum. every now and then one see's comments in a thread which promts one to ask 'why?', which is the nature of forums, we're here to ask, discuss and stick our hoar in. it's good to exchange views and opinions (even if you all think I'm nuts with my 'couldn't give a toss about w3c' comment) and look forward to doing so with you all in the foreseeable future. :-) dave I am your knee [small](Edited by [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/user/6362]hawkwind dave[/url] on 12-11-2006 03:43)[/small] Loading...
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