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[quote] [b]DL-44 said:[/b] Religion *should* be critical of itself, but far more often than not, it is only critical of others, and only defends its precepts no matter the facts.[/quote] That's the problem - both with religion and science. Let me try to clarify: I see faith and religion as two different things. I have faith in God, Jesus Christ and the promise of redemption; but I would not call myself religious due to the utter revulsion I feel when I see or hear of religious people (aggressive televangelism, lecherous Catholic priests, &c.). These 'devout' or 'religious' people would have us discard science as Godless thinking injected into our world by Satan meant to turn us from the One True Way and simply take things exactly as written (and, by the way, God needs money, please call the number at the bottom of your screen, athankyouverymuch). By the same token, I see scientific theory and scientific fact as two different things. Theorists accept criticism and are always thinking of new ways and ideas to expand our understanding of ourselves and the worlds around us; the proponents of scientific fact would have us discard everything but the "hard evidence" and consider this existence a cosmic accident easily explained and replicated by laboratory experiments. Goodness, instead of clarifying, I'm soapboxing. I apologize. But I do hope you see where I'm coming from. [quote] [b]DL-44 said:[/b] Science, by its nature, accepts criticsim by all, and exists only because of criticism and constant redefinition. Why/how is it the job of science to explain the possible variations in interpretation of ancient literature?[/quote] Science exists to assist us in dealing with the world we can perceive; we can sense (see, touch, &c.) God's creation but cannot explain its coming into being. The Bible tells us God created the world in six days; we can choose to take that at face value (faith/religion) or investigate it further to prove or disprove that (science). But what is our basis of a 'day'? Is it defined by God as it is defined by man? In this scientific realm, we need to question the nature of the 'given' value (day). Again harkening back to WebShaman, let's look at it mathematically: Creation = 6 * day Where day = ? We assume, as mortal men and women, that day = 24 Earth hours. But to God, at that point in His plan day could = 75,000,000 Earth years. Or 5.2 seconds. We don't know for sure, because we have no way of seeing the Universe as God sees it. At least, not yet. Maybe science will create that method - that is what I was driving at, DL-44. It's not science's job to explain ancient lore, science's job in the hands of a human is the same as a calculator, computer, pen or screwdriver - to achieve an end through the use of the tool. One more illustration: take an ice sculpture (God's creation). Now we are told that the sculptor (God) made the artwork using a tool. Now we can assume a regular chisel and clawhammer were used, given the delicacy of the artwork. However, perhaps the sculptor has had years of practice and can execute very fine work with a chainsaw. Then again maybe they worked in a meat locker for weeks with a taphammer and an olive fork. We won't know until we ask the sculptor, or find a way to see him at work. *dismounts from soapbox again* ~~~ Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein [img]http://www.danasoft.com/sig/AsylumScrawls.jpg[/img]
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