Opera 9.10 — OZONE Asylum, home of the Mad Scientists

OZONE

Opera 9.10

This page's ID: 28750

Edit Post

Who can edit a post?	The poster and administrators may edit a post. The poster can only edit it for a short while after the initial post.

Your User Name:
Your Password:
Login Options:	Remember Me On This Computer

Your Text: Insert Slimies » Insert UBB Code » Close Last Tag \| All Tags UBB Help	[quote][b]poi said:[/b] The desktop team blog provides only a weekly build of the desktop browser. There's much more than the desktop version of Opera : mobile, mini, game consoles, ...[/quote]Of course, but I'm just a member of [spectrans] and [mac-elektra] so I don't have access to the internal builds for the rest of it. And I'd not be able to use the mobile or game console builds in any case :) [quote]In the log you pasted, Brendan is Brendan Eich, the inventor of JavaScript and CTO of Mozilla ?[/quote][quote][url]http://people.mozilla.com/~gavin/javascript-20061107.log[/url] [07 13:22:03] * gavin_ changes topic to 'Developer Chat with Mozilla CTO Brendan Eich and Kevin Lynch, chief software architect at Adobe - Tuesday at 10am PST (18:00 GMT) \|\| /msg gavin_ to ask a question' [07 13:39:36] <brendan> WeirdAl: ES4 is on track for finalization early next Spring[/quote] [quote]But clearly I think Opera will be the first browser with implementing a significant part of EcmaScript 4 since the Mozilla dudes said they won't have it until FireFox 3 or 4, that is at least one more year.[/quote]Firefox 3 has been in development since Firefox 2 branched in August, 2005. [url=http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/3.0a1/releasenotes/]The first alpha has in fact been released[/url]. The major JavaScript changes (1.8 or 1.9) aren't there yet, of course... But they say Firefox 3 will be released WITHIN a year, and considering the speed of upgrades to SpiderMonkey since Brendan woke the ECMA TG1 up from whatever cryochamber it's been in since Netscape's demise, I wouldn't be surprised if we get JavaScript 1.9 at the least, and maybe even 2.0, within that time frame. Mozilla is kinda limited at the moment by having a hideously Netscape-corporate-politics-bloated architecture to fight against while developing. (It's at least not a 23MiB everything-including-[url=http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/samples/kitchensink.xml]the-kitchensink[/url] browser any more). Development speed is limited by the fact they MUST do major redesigns of a lot of systems - SVG, XBL, XUL, the replacement of their current rendering architecture with Cairo, the clear separations of Gecko into XULRunner and applications such as Firefox, Thunderbird, Seamonkey, Sunbird, Nvu etc. written to use that. (In fact, I can see how Apple's choice of KHTML/KJS was wise - massive code bloat isn't good for companies profiled for being innovative. Mozilla has a harder time cleaning their code base up than Apple have implementing the missing features.) So, of course, I expect Opera to crank out the first ECMAScript 4 engine just as soon as the spec goes final. And JavaScriptCore turning to ES4 just ahead of SpiderMonkey. But as Brendan noticed, the question is as always: What about Microsoft? -- var Liorean = { abode: "[sigrotate][url]http://liorean.web-graphics.com/[/url]\|[url]http://codingforums.com/[/url]\|[url]http://web-graphics.com/[/url][/sigrotate]", profile: "[url]http://codingforums.com/member.php?u=5798[/url]"}; [small](Edited by [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/user/5032]liorean[/url] on 12-21-2006 13:14)[/small] [small](Edited by [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/user/5032]liorean[/url] on 12-21-2006 13:15)[/small] Loading...
Options:	Enable Slimies Enable Linkwords

« Backwards — Onwards »

Show Forum Drop Down Menu