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Your Text: Insert Slimies » Insert UBB Code » Close Last Tag \| All Tags UBB Help	Well, it is interesting, that much is sure. As usual, fact and assumption is mixed together to give the "feeling" that everything fits together and makes sense. But it doesn't. If one starts to take some notes, and does some homework, one soon begins to see large holes in the "logic" leaps and assumptions. For example, there has been no concrete proof presented that there is some sort of "organisation" consisting of some ulta-elite (like the Illuminati). Instead, some names are dangled before the eyes of the audience, and some of the "evil deeds" of these names are then trotted out, and then bam! Of course they are part of some sort of Global conspiracy. Well, human nature doesn't work that way, I am afraid. As one becomes more powerful, and has more money, more power, more toys, etc, it also means that one has less friends and peers. And as with all humans, one has friends, enemies, likes, dislikes, loves, hatreds, rivals, and companions. The super rich and the ultra-powerful do as well. Also, children like to rebel against parents, and do things that their parents really don't like - especially among the super rich and ultra-powerful (if you do not believe it, examine history). So trying to keep some sort of group together, between these types of families, really is whimiscal phantasy. Provide some proof first. Because when dealing with things like this, you have to make sure that every single thing presented is documented and backed up by fact. Otherwise, it is just another attempt to manipulate. Now, obviously the Rockefellers, and the other names mentioned here are not "white-as-snow". Obviously, they are only interested in their own best interests, and are willing to ride rough-shot over anyone elses that they can. And they do not care for laws, organizations, morals, or whatever that happen to get in the way - they only respect one thing. Power. He who has it calls the shots, at least as long as he has it. Of course, someone else is always conniving a way to get all of yours, and you his. Take the 1907 case trotted out. Of course the Rockefellers & Co. quietly withdrew their funds. Back then, insider trading laws did not exist, and such families were very powerful and interconnected. Not only that, but surely they also had their hand in the game, if indeed they were not orchastrating it themselves. But it is a looooong stretch of the imaginiation to go from that to some sort of conspiracy stretching over x number of decades, involving some of the most powerful families the world knows! There are many instances in the film, that come across as being totally naive and ignorant of human nature and human history. Take the WWI, WWII, and Vietnam Gulf of Tonkin incidents. Like they were the first times things like this had been tried! Rubbish! Governments, Rulers, Religions, etc have been doing such things since Humans climbed down from out of the treetops. Again, human nature. If I tell you the truth of the matter as I see it, you may or may not accept it, hell, you may think I am nuts for saying so. But if I trick you into believing it, well, that is sooo much better, because I take out of the picture the possibility of you doing just that - refusing to accept my "truth" as I see it. Now apply the same thing on a grand scale - and remember, the larger the group, the easier it is to manipulate. Humans have a tendence towards herd mentality and the unconcious urge to accept as more "true" what a larger group accepts, as a smaller one. The rather distorted and lopsided rantings of Jade are a good example of this. If you are not aware of some of her ramblings, then just do a search. The part where the whole film basically gets shot to hell and back is the comparison of Mr. Bush with Hitler in that little speech on the Homeland Security. Everyone who debates knows that when the Hitler argument is raised, that the point is moot and the discussion is over. That aside, anyone who has made even just a casual jaunt into the realm of debate, propaganda, communication, etc knows that Hitler had some great propaganda. Perhaps the best that we have documented to this day. And of course, anyone who can recognize that, can recognize that such can be used over, and over, and over, and over, and over again...just change the date, change a few words, and apply it to a different situation. So in conclusion (yes, my little rant is coming to an end, so be patient ;) ) - the film documents some interesting facts, makes for an enjoyable watching experience, and raises some interesting questions. But it falls well flat of being able to prove or even demonstrate facts for a conspiracy by some ultra-powerful, elite group that is trying to sieze control of the world and excercise total domination ala Big Brother over every single living human being. [url=http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/397/]WebShaman[/url] \| [i]The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities. - Sophocles[/i] Loading...
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