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mas
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From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

IP logged posted posted 10-16-2007 20:09 Edit Quote

well, there is some truth in this story
http://www.meangene.com/google/design_for_google.html


The Space Between Us | My Blog: lukas.grumet.at

docilebob
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: buttcrack of the midwest
Insane since: Oct 2000

IP logged posted posted 10-16-2007 20:32 Edit Quote

That`s funny.
True, but funny

WebShaman
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From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

IP logged posted posted 10-17-2007 00:42 Edit Quote

That was hilarious!

Thanks for posting

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

reisio
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From: Florida
Insane since: Mar 2005

IP logged posted posted 10-17-2007 01:11 Edit Quote

Doesn't seem particularly based on reality to me...

Suho1004
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From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

IP logged posted posted 10-17-2007 04:19 Edit Quote

I don't get it.

"What if Google had to design their user interface for Google?"

Um, isn't this what they did to get their current homepage? Who designed it if it wasn't Google?

Oh... wait. Does that mean: "What if Google, the company, had to design their user interface so that it ranked high on the Google search engine?" I think I get it now. But I also think I have to agree with reisio.

Case in point: go to Google and search on "liminality." First result is Wikipedia, not surprisingly. Second result? Me. Now search on "what is liminality" (in quotes). First result? Me (without quotes I'm second, again after Wikipedia). And I used none of those techniques mentioned. I don't even have a "links" page (anymore).

I understand that it was an attempt at humor, but it didn't strike me as all that funny, maybe because I was confused by the title question. A more accurate title would be: "What if the user interface for Google were designed by someone who was obsessed with SEO techniques and not really interested in content or usefulness?" But then I guess maybe it wouldn't be as funny(?).

Having a wet blanket day today. Sorry.


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reisio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Florida
Insane since: Mar 2005

IP logged posted posted 10-17-2007 06:21 Edit Quote

or s/Google/Acme search engine in the 90s

Suho1004
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From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

IP logged posted posted 10-17-2007 09:38 Edit Quote

Yeah, exactly.

WebShaman
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From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

IP logged posted posted 10-17-2007 17:18 Edit Quote

Awww...c'mon Master Suhu!

It was funny!

Of course there is not going to be any "content" - it is a search machine

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

Suho1004
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From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

IP logged posted posted 10-18-2007 01:49 Edit Quote

Sorry, WS... just can't muster the mirth. This one scores a -1 on my mirth scale.

( Master Suho's Mirth Scale)

As far as content and search engines go, you have a point. Thus the mention of usefulness.

And I was dismayed to find Kottke linking to this "humor" this morning. Come on, people, this is like making a joke about Ronald Reagan!

JKMabry
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From: raht cheah
Insane since: Aug 2000

IP logged posted posted 10-18-2007 05:22 Edit Quote

it's probably not intended to be a gut buster, it's just a commentary on the way things are. and of course it's about designing for rank

I'm sure you Suho, rank high for liminality mostly due to the relative obscurity of the word (FF spellchecker has flagged it in this textarea, the irony), not a lot of common usage out there, couple that with inbound links...

wet blanket indeed!

that said, ha. Just realized it wasn't that interesting

mas
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From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

IP logged posted posted 10-18-2007 12:00 Edit Quote

Suho: at least i got to raise your eyebrow


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Suho1004
Maniac (V) Mad Librarian

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

IP logged posted posted 10-18-2007 15:04 Edit Quote

Jason: yeah, relatively obscurity certainly helps, but I'm still second out of 433,000 results for the term. My point is that I didn't actually do anything in the way of search engine optimization to get there, that's all.

Although I suppose it is telling that Wikipedia is now first (or at least on the first page) for just about everything in part due to Page Rank hoarding...

mas: yep, you got a raised eyebrow. In fact, I think it's stuck there.

WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

IP logged posted posted 10-19-2007 10:31 Edit Quote

^ Party pooper



WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Mad Librarian

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

IP logged posted posted 10-19-2007 11:44 Edit Quote

Yes, that's right. Just in case you were wondering what that stench was--it was me pooping the party!

DL-44
Lunatic (VI) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

IP logged posted posted 10-19-2007 14:47 Edit Quote

like ususal....


Suho1004
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From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

IP logged posted posted 10-19-2007 15:23 Edit Quote

Hey, it's a messy job, but somebody's got to do it.

Lord_Fukutoku
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: San Antonio
Insane since: Jul 2002

IP logged posted posted 10-19-2007 17:29 Edit Quote

It's getting pretty bad in here now... Anyone seen vp's mop lately?

WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

IP logged posted posted 10-19-2007 23:55 Edit Quote

Didn't Schizo have to use it, last time we jumped out of the airplane

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

JKMabry
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: raht cheah
Insane since: Aug 2000

IP logged posted posted 10-20-2007 04:38 Edit Quote
quote:

Suho1004 said:
My point is that I didn't actually do anything in the way of search engine optimization to get there, that's all.



whether you meant to or not you've done something

Ranking algorithms like your URL, your title, your XML file, 6743 links to your domain, the clout/authoritativeness of aforementioned links (some have major teeth in the online world, congrats), your copious cross linking within your own domain etc etc etc

you may not have gone out of your way to appeal to a robot but you my friend must face facts, your semantic attitude, logic, attention to detail, social skills, all very sexy to robots.

I won't tell your wife but I expect she is suspicious already

reisio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Florida
Insane since: Mar 2005

IP logged posted posted 10-20-2007 04:40 Edit Quote
quote:
docilebob said:



Ugh...



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