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Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-14-2007 07:51

Watched a terrific program by Nova earlier tonight about the ID debate in Dover, Colorado. Terrific stuff. I absolutely loved the part about the researcher who pored over several drafts of "Of Pandas and People," a textbook central to the court case in which defendants were insisting ID was not creationism repackaged, and found the two drafts between which the term "creation" was clearly and undeniably searched-and-replaced with the term "intelligent design," and "God" with "intelligent agent" -- a change that occurred right after the Supreme Court ruled that creationism cannot be taught in school. Talk about an embarrassing smoking gun.

There's also a lot of really great content on evolution science. If you can catch it locally, do. Otherwise, it looks like the whole thing will be available online here on the 16th.

DL-44
Lunatic (VI) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 11-14-2007 15:03

Yep, I watched that as well. Excellent program, and well presented.

The most striking thing to me was the abundance of commentary by Bill Buckingham. It is nothing new, of course, but I was still astounded by how he could, on the one hand, insist that his push for ID was not religious, and how poorly the judge had interpreted that, and on the other hand practically call down fire and brimstone on the science teachers who refused to read the statement in class...

The versions of the book was a great thing to bring to light, and though it is obvious what the intent of these books was, to have such a solid proof for the court is delightful.
The "cdesign proponentsists" has to take the cake...

hyperbole
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Madison, Indiana
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-14-2007 19:18

I watched that show also. Afterward my reaction was that it was probably the best NOVA this year. Anyone who missed it can find out more information about the show and watch it on-line here

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-- not necessarily stoned... just beautiful.



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