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[quote] [b]WebShaman said:[/b] I do not mean that the find validates that Romulus and Remus were suckled, or really existed. That is the whole point! Obviously, the Romans held this to be true, and erected this monument in this cave to this end. Whether or not the cave was truly the cave that they were suckled in, and if it really happen is not proven, of course. What is proven is that a cave with a monument to this legend exists, and that the Romans actually celebrated this. This validates the legend that Romans held this to be true (or at least celebrated it). [/quote] Right, I get you. I think what tripped me up was that last sentence there, especially the phrase "the legend that Romans held this to be true." I wasn't aware that anyone doubted that Romans held this to be true, or such a belief in itself would qualify as a legend. The Romulus and Remus story? Legend. The belief in the Romulus and Remus story? Historical fact. That is, we [i]know[/i] that the ancient Romans believed the tale to be true (or did we not? Maybe this was an assumption on my part). At any rate, I read you loud and clear. You have no argument from me. :) [quote] [b]DL-44 said:[/b] The articles I have read give no indication that anyone is promoting the location as being where the actual mythical event happened, but rather that this is the location the ancients held sacred in regard to the mythical event (whether they believed it happened there, or simply found it a suitable location). [/quote] The article that WS links to above gave me the impression that this scholar was saying that this cave was the actual cave where Romulus and Remus were suckled, not merely the cave where the ancient Romans believed they were suckled and held rituals to that effect. [quote] ?This could reasonably be the place bearing witness to the myth of Rome,? Francesco Rutelli, Italy?s culture minister, said ... ?This is one of the most important discoveries of all time,? said Andrea Carandini, a prominent Italian archaeologist. He has long held that the myths of ancient Rome could be true. He said he derived added satisfaction from the cave?s location. [/quote] Or did I read this wrong? Granted, it doesn't say flat out that this was the actual cave, but the article does seem to be trying to give that impression, doesn't it? Now that I think about it, though, I can't be sure whether the scholars themselves believe this or whether this is yet another example of shifty reporting. I is confused. :( [img]http://www.liminality.org/asylum/sigs/suho_taegeuk_sig2.gif[/img] ___________________________ Suho: [url=http://www.liminality.org]www.liminality.org[/url] | [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/4837]Cell 270[/url] | [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/5689]Sig Rotator[/url] | [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/22173]the Fellowship of Sup[/url]
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