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lallous
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Lebanon
Insane since: May 2001

IP logged posted posted 11-29-2007 15:46 Edit Quote

Hello Guys,


If you have a PSP2 and experienced it for a while, please share your experience regarding:

- Watching movies
- browsing the web
- doing undocumented stuff (like programming it, installing other OS)
- gaming experience
- audio experience
- what memory sizes are you using / can afford to use?

etc...

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Regards,
Elias

White Hawk
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

IP logged posted posted 11-29-2007 17:10 Edit Quote

PSP2? You mean the Slim'n'Lite?

If you're talking about the slim PSP, I can tell you one thing straight away. Retrograding isn't easy, and having a jig-kicker isn't a guarantee of success, as the old 1.5 firmware kernel simply will not run on it. Outside of that... I've only fiddled with one briefly.

If anyone has a slim one they don't want, I'll swap one of my uber-hacked 'phat' PSPs for it - I'll even throw in a Pro Duo packed with homebrew!

If you're not talking about the PSP Slim, then I'd say Sony have put the final nail in the coffin of the PSP. The Slim has a little more functionality, a better screen, and is more compact, but it's still just a fat PSP under the skin (with fingerlongers, perhaps). It'd be sheer stupidity for Sony to release a full-on PSP2 while the PSP(/slim) is still selling - it's probably more accurate to call it a PSP v2...

lallous
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Lebanon
Insane since: May 2001

IP logged posted posted 11-30-2007 09:49 Edit Quote

I guess it is the slim and lite one, here in Lebanon it is selling for 255$

I can't find anymore old PSPs though...and wonder if the PSP hacks work on the new PSP (the slim or the psp2, not sure the difference yet).
PSP/slim or 2, has TV out and you can connect a camera to it (that's what the salesman told me).

White Hawk, Tell me about your experience (regarding my questions in the first post) with your current PSP.

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Regards,
Elias

zavaboy
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: f(x)
Insane since: Jun 2004

IP logged posted posted 11-30-2007 11:59 Edit Quote

I can do all that stuff on my DS... and... chat in IRC, check my email, play movies/shows/video/music, listen to my favorite internet radio stations, and quickly Google stuff.
I don't own a PSP, so what am I saying?

*runs off into the darkness*

kimson
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Royal Horsing Ground
Insane since: Jan 2005

IP logged posted posted 11-30-2007 14:36 Edit Quote

What are you using to do all that zavaboy? I have an R4DS card (and a DS lite) and would like to set myself up with the internet but how can I do it? Did you get the web browser application? Also, do you find it easy to find Wi-Fi connections? I still haven't used the Wi-Fi capability, it'sa pity...

zavaboy
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: f(x)
Insane since: Jun 2004

IP logged posted posted 12-01-2007 03:47 Edit Quote

If your near an access point that is open, you can set up connections with any official game that uses the Wi-Fi or some homebrew applications can find them too, like DSOrganize (which includes an IRC client, browser, and internet radio player). Another cool application is the Colors app, it allows you to draw while taking advantage of pressure sensitivity on the touch screen to adjust thickness and/or transparency of the brush.

kimson
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Royal Horsing Ground
Insane since: Jan 2005

IP logged posted posted 12-03-2007 09:45 Edit Quote

Nice tips, thanks

White Hawk
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

IP logged posted posted 12-04-2007 10:20 Edit Quote

The PSP I use regularly is running a custom firmware which allows me to use third-party (homebrew) applications. I can (via a combination of official and unofficial features) listen to internet radio stations, back up my games to memory stick (to save carting a bundle of UMDs everywhere), view videos in various formats, listen to MP3s while I browse the web, chat on messenger networks, stream movies directly from my home network via wireless, and even type on an infra-red foldaway keyboard.

Of course, the one thing I can do on the PSP that I can't do on a DS is this: play games that don't look like they were made for the Gameboy. Ooh, but I do play Gameboy (Adv/Col), SNES, and Genesis ROMs via various homebrew emulators... um, yeah, I own the games I have ROMs for, of course...

YES! You can hack the PSP slim! Your options with the slim version are more limited than with the original version, but there ARE options.

Check out Noobz.eu - home of the homebrew hack pioneers.

Of course, the one thing you can't do with a PSP is touch the screen... well, you could, but it wouldn't achieve much, and it would leave the screen smudged. Oh, how do I live without touchscreen? Woe is me! Woe is me! :P

lallous
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Lebanon
Insane since: May 2001

IP logged posted posted 12-04-2007 11:01 Edit Quote

Hello White Hawk,

That sounds exciting.

So if I get a PSP device can you help me do what you did?
Like point me as to where I can get those patches, those software, etc...that sounds exciting.
I even read that I can install BOCHS and then have XP inside of it...also one can use DOSBOX and install dos and DOS games too!

Btw, why are my options limited with the slim version? how can you tell?

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Elias

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Regards,
Elias

White Hawk
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

IP logged posted posted 12-04-2007 15:16 Edit Quote

Your homebrew choice will be slightly more restrictive, as you will be unable to run the 1.5FW kernel, and therefore, homebrew designed for 1.5.

Using a jig-kicker ('pandora' battery and a specially prepared meory stick) that you can create for yourself, it is quite possible to install custom firmware (minus the 1.5 components), but development of custom firmware appears to grinding to a shuddering and uncertain halt (for the umpteenth time).

It is possible to use an exploit that allows the execution of a homebrew loader (check out Noobz.eu), but without kernel mode access, the range of homebrew available is further thinned.

Of course, while there are developers ("hackers"?) still willing to work on it - an increasingly rare thing due to the disillusionment suffered by those that have worked hardest to bring us homebrew - the real work has already been done, and with the advent of the jig-kicker battery/card, it looks increasingly unlikely that Sony will ever really win the war to lock their users down to the intended restrictions.

As I mentioned - go to Noobz.eu and have a look. You may find it all very interesting, as I did, or decide that the lack of continuing and speedy development makes the venture worthless to you... *shrug*

(Edited by White Hawk on 12-04-2007 15:21)

White Hawk
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

IP logged posted posted 12-05-2007 11:21 Edit Quote

Sorry for the double post, but I left it too long to edit the above post.

To clarify-

You can install custom firmware on your PSP Lite, and you will be able to use homebrew compiled for the later FW versions, as well as having all the great functionality of the custom firmware...
You can also use Noobz' new eLoader (the latest is, oddly enough, v1.000) to run homebrew (esp. that compiled for FW1.5) but it will not have kernel mode access (meaning no UMD emulation, for instance).

FYI - you might want to research custom firmware (Dark_Alex/M33, HX-1), and the Pandora Battery. To be honest, it has on several occasions looked like the end was in sight for custom firmware, either because of new Sony protections, or because various developers lost their interest - but I'm not alone in holding out hope that new developments will continue to crop up once in a while. As it stands, there is already plenty to play around with.

Some useful links:
At PSP-Hacks, I found the Ultimate Pandora Magic Stick for use with a Pandora (jig-kicker) battery. Be sure to read this (regarding Pandora-proffed Sony batteries), this (regarding the useful, if misleading, Datel jig-kicker battery, and especially this (the birth of Pandora) so that you know a bit more about Pandora. The Datel battery referenced might save you a whole load of bother, and you'd be best-off buying a second battery anyway (as the modified battery doesn't allow normal operation), so it might as well be a Pandora-ready one - though you'll still need to make the Pandora magic stick (a modified memory stick) in order to use it.

Another article on the custom firmware (CFW) by Team M33 (a.k.a, the legendary Dark_Alex or DAX) is here. I'm having trouble finding a good, centralised source/resource, but Noobz, DAX sites are all useful, as are several console related forums easily found in internet searches.

I won't bother posting links to homebrew - Noobz have there own library, and you'll find plenty of useful links under any search engine you care to use.

I'll take this opportunity to provide a disclaimer; I have provided no illegal information, and the resources referred to here are not illegal. There may be risk of disabling your PSP due to improper use of firmware flashing utilities - a risk that only you take full responsibility for! While the custom firmware and homebrew is provided by developers who are vociferously set against piracy, you take full responsibility for the legal ramifications of applying and utilising their software/firmware/hacks. It is also up to you to utilise the functionality of the custom firmware in a legal and responsible manner.

Contact me directly, and I'll give you all the help I can, but I cannot legally provide you with the completed CFW/downgrader packages or the completed Pandora creation software. The reason is that proprietary code is required in the final product, and this can only be distributed in its original form (official firmware packages), so that the preparatory steps must be undertaken by the user, along with the assumption of full responsibility of any applicable legal ramifications relevant to you. The preparation isn't as scary as it might sound - but it is always a good idea to be fully informed and to do all the research you can before undertaking any procedure which might, if incorrectly executed, render your PSP an expensive and shiny brick.

That's really all I can think of...

(Edited by White Hawk on 12-05-2007 12:22)

lallous
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Lebanon
Insane since: May 2001

IP logged posted posted 12-13-2007 09:12 Edit Quote

hello guys,

i got a psp slim and though that i'ld share my own experience

first, I would like to thank WhiteHawk for his help and suggestions, which actually encouraged me to buy one...and no, he doesn't work for Sony! :P

first i'll start by correcting the topic's title and saying that there's no psp2 yet, what I was referring to was the PSP slim & lite version.

1) I got to see the fat PSP and compare it with the slim one. From weight, elegance and look, PSP slim is much beautiful than PSP fat
2) Yes, you can watch movies. Any sort of movies, as long as you convert them to appropriate formats.
There is a free psp video converter tool that does the job for you.
You can even convert FLV into MP4.

3) Browsing the web is possible, since PSP has WiFi support and a browser, you can navigate to sites normally, even those with https

3) Doing undocumented stuff (like programming it, installing other OS)?
Well, did not try it, but some report that it is possible to install windows 98 or XP, ... through BOCHS
Some say that there is DOSBOX for PSP, and you can install DOS

4) gaming experience?
I got to see that I'm impressed...I come from computer games background, did not see PS 1 or 2 or XBOX, but PSP looks awesome for a portable and small device.
The PSP slim can be hooked into a HDTV and you view through your big screen

5) Audio experience?

Well, the player is nice, it comes with half a dozen of visualizations.
The volume isn't so loud though.

6) what memory sizes are you using / can afford to use?
I purchased a fake 4GB Sony Duo for 50$.
I did not know it was fake until after I purchased it...actually seeing 50$ I was mesmerized and couldn't think more and felt it is not to be missed...
Later I was reading that fakes do exist...and a simple way to verify a fake or a genuine is to check if there is MagicGate support in the stick (through the PSP's menu). The fake ones has a MagicGate label but actually it doesn't work.

7) Custom firmwares?
Well, I think since one owns a PSP you can do whatever you want to it as long as you're not harming anyone.
I've tried two custom firmwares (CFW) and they allow you to "bend" your PSP and do things it wasn't really supposed to be doing.

Good luck.

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Regards,
Elias

White Hawk
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

IP logged posted posted 12-17-2007 15:39 Edit Quote

Actually, Elias, you prompted me to finally get around to experimenting fully with the capabilities of my own PSP. In one evening, I've done more with my PSP than I'd bothered to do in all the time I've had it.

Having prep'd everything on my pocket drive, it took me all of three minutes to set up Pimpstreamer and NetHostFS on my office machine - and now I can play music, games and videos directly from my pocket drive wirelessly. Of course, I'm sure the boss wouldn't approve, but I'm just so pleased to see how well it works.

I was wandering around my house last night, streaming random videos at 500kb/s to my PSP... just because I could!

It would appear that the PSP homebrew/customisation scene is still alive and well, and kicking hard!

I hope you don't regret your purchase, Elias.



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