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SleepingWolf
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Insane since: Jul 2006

posted posted 01-09-2008 04:47

Most of us know you can limit your google search to a specific site by typing:

"site:www.nameofsite.com" in the search bar (preceded with the search string)

For example
funk site:www.ozoneasylum.com

but what about the search bar itself? I found this interesting link...many of you might have seen it..I but thought i would share it:

http://www.google.com/coop/cse/

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argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

posted posted 01-10-2008 13:57

Goodie, thanks for sharing.
They also make search servers, wonderful apps that they port to Linux,
and so on and so forth.

And as a side note, youngpup www.youngpup.net
And the guy who used to host dhmtlcentral work for them now.

So, there is a future to making little birds fly - the future actually seems to be all about that.

SleepingWolf
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From:
Insane since: Jul 2006

posted posted 01-11-2008 00:16

Thanks for the link Argo.

There's a shitload of interesting stuff coming out of google..most of it commercial though, I'm really not into the ad side of it though.

Shifting gears, this is one I'm dying to dive into when i can find some spare time:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/air/

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zavaboy
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: f(x)
Insane since: Jun 2004

posted posted 01-11-2008 06:34

Adobe Air looks awesome. I think I'll give it whirl. Thanks for the link!

poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Norway
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 01-12-2008 13:05
quote:
And as a side note, youngpup www.youngpup.net
And the guy who used to host dhmtlcentral work for them now.

So, there is a future to making little birds fly - the future actually seems to be all about that.

Scott Schiller, Schillmania here, works for Yahoo!/Flickr. I work for Opera where I get to make things fly on various platforms too. We've hired Benjamin Joffe, the author of Canvascape, and are always looking at people doing magic using web technologies. So yes! There's definitely a future for those making things fly

AIR and the likes seem powerful but last time I heard the security was not exactly their main concern, e.g: I've been told file access was not restricted to some sort of sandbox and did not require user interaction. That may be a deliberate attempt to turn "webApps" into "native" apps but I find the possibilities a bit worrying. Doing evil with that is way too easy. That may also not be true, or true anymore

SleepingWolf
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From:
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posted posted 01-12-2008 17:59
quote:

poi said:
So yes! There's definitely a future for those making things fly AIR and the likes seem powerful but last time I heard the security was not exactly their main concern, e.g: I've been told file access was not restricted to some sort of sandbox and did not require user interaction. That may be a deliberate attempt to turn "webApps" into "native" apps but I find the possibilities a bit worrying. Doing evil with that is way too easy. That may also not be true, or true anymore




I'm not sure I follow you. How can a local flash/ajax/html/js application pose greater security risks than those already on the web or local apps in general?

For one thing, a local app normally doesn't propagate itself or duplicate itself - which is the raison d'etre for a virus or trojan. Also, the ways flash or javascript can interact with the operating system and local files are very limited, no?.

Writing a local app which could format a hard drive or erase files is much easier to do in C++ or VB or VBA etc. So why would web technologies, which don't have the same kind of API support that most programming languages for the desktop benefit from, be more of a security risk. What am I missing?

I mean I could write and send someone a batch file that echoes *yes* to *format c* - all within a few bytes of code.....now that's scary.


On the other side of the coin, here are the security risks raised (but again, local or web, what difference?)

http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/AIR:HTML_Security_FAQ#What_kind_of_security_threats_are_we_talking_about.3F

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(Edited by SleepingWolf on 01-12-2008 18:05)

poi
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From: Norway
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 01-12-2008 18:14

They don't pose a greater threat per se, but they are hip and people want those "funny Flash apps on their desktop", which makes it easy to do and distribute an evil app collecting private data. People are less aware of the potential risk.

AIR and others have a File API. It's certainly not possible to format a drive, but it sure is possible to steal and/or delete private informations. Especially if the File API doesn't require a user interaction to grant access to this or that folder.

These applications are easy to write, hip, have file access and unrestricted web access. They can make for a lovely trojan.

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Holy moly! so it's true, AIR do/did not require user interaction to get file access. Plain scary.
Luckily Adobe seems to be moving towards a sandbox approach. Phewww.

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(Edited by poi on 01-12-2008 18:22)

SleepingWolf
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From:
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posted posted 01-12-2008 20:01

Ok I understand where you were coming from now. Thanks.
My outlook was more for personal use or corporate deployment - this would minimize/eliminate risk. I like the concept of being able to package this technology in a standalone package.

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