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Arthurio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: cell 3736
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 03-11-2008 11:37

This is not a site yet. Just an idea. And I'd like your opinions.

Basic concept:
A site for storing ideas, political messages, predictions etc. When creating a new 'idea' it would be possible to choose whether this is editable or not and if not then it's permanent and will stay on the site forever with all the information such as posting date/time, whether it's editable, idea body itself etc. Additional features could include things such as: ideas will 'open' automatically on a predefined date thus becoming visible to the public.
Kind of a social networking site with categories such as most popular ideas, weekly ideas etc. Forums for discussion. All for free of course.

Uses: people could use this site to prove (not legally but anyway) that they were the first to come up with a certain idea or prove that their prediction had come true. Also this site could be a central way of sharing ideas.

I already registered the domain idearepository . org just in case ...

Opinions? Do you think it's feasible? Do you think it's needed?

kimson
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Royal Horsing Ground
Insane since: Jan 2005

posted posted 03-11-2008 12:54

I had this idea some time ago - and never got the balls/time/willingness to do it. I even thought I could make it a profitable one

Bare in mind that this would not be the first "ideas" website; this is one.

It is a nice concept but I tend to believe that people often keep their ideas for themselves. I think it's still worth a shot, but perhaps you'll have to define clearly what you expect from the website.

Let me know when it's up, I will probably contribute

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

posted posted 03-11-2008 13:42

I think websites ARE ideas vectors anyhow. I compare them to neurons - and the comparison does make sense.
Plus what kimson said.

Arthurio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: cell 3736
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 03-11-2008 14:32

Thanks for the link. I was assuming that there must be something like that but I didn't find anything myself.

Taken a quick look I still believe that my idea is a little bit different/ differently oriented.

edit: argo: yes but my idea is a third party, trustable service that isn't subject to interference/ changes from any beneficiary parties. In blogs, forums any other sites there's no way to prove that what's written was really there on the specified date and in that exact form. Users, mods can usually edit the content long after it is posted.

(Edited by Arthurio on 03-11-2008 14:38)

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

posted posted 03-11-2008 15:00

I may be totally wrong, but I use biology a lot, and analogies to biology and information science a lot too.
This is one of my most pricey ideas : consider it a reward for your perseverance towards positive contributions.
Biology - because all things that evolve evolve according to Darwin. Bare with me.

If your project is to evolve, it has to fit a "niche" : it has to enter some "space" where there will be no clear or superior rivals.
I am talking from the perspective of someone who wants money, and a lot, for anything I publish - but I think this holds
true for any concept that goes live and blossoms, in any area.

It may not require much for a site to fit such a niche - think Flickr, Google, etc. Simple is good indeed - but new, really new,
and useful, really useful.

With these in mind, it seems your project does offer a difference - I'd put together a proof of concept, or would get the idea
started, and post about it. Then again, I am not sure I 100% understand what it is about - but it seems very clear to you.

Arthurio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: cell 3736
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 03-11-2008 15:45
quote:

argo navis said:
If your project is to evolve, it has to fit a "niche" : it has to enter some "space" where there will be no clear or superior rivals.



Thanks. I think the word 'evolve' could easily be substituted with 'be successful' in which case the sentence means classic niche marketing. Evolving means advancing from one level to the next so it's a little bit unclear to me what you mean exactly. Evolution of a website could mean expansion or feature improvements or both.

kimson: do you know any other similar sites? I tried to look but still couldn't find anything. Which in itself seems to be a good sign. Or a bad one ... I wonder how many people have thought of it and dismissed it as silly or unnecessary or simply didn't have the time/resources/skills to make it happen.

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

posted posted 03-11-2008 15:56

Evolve = survive and mate/breed.

quote:

simply didn't have the time/resources/skills to make it happen.



If you have those, take my word, and make it happen.
Don't mind the other members of the red league - don't mind the x-wing sensors : use the force, Luke!

(Edited by argo navis on 03-11-2008 15:59)

Arthurio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: cell 3736
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 03-11-2008 16:00

I'm thinking that maybe an online private notepad kind of application with the option to publish some of the notes/ideas could help with attracting users.

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

posted posted 03-11-2008 16:06

I cannot urge this enough, just tell me to stop if need be, but :
if the entire world is making fun of your idea when it's in the idea stage, if nobody else seems to believe in it
but YOU believe in it, then chances are you're on to something and to filling a niche that nobody else could see.

Believing in you is attractive in and of itself : if it's well done and comes from the heart, people will notice.
(seek entries about Meta Tags in the faqwiki though - and my post about reversing google, a much flamed post,
it should help you get excellent references).

Arthurio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: cell 3736
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 03-11-2008 16:06
quote:

argo navis said:
If you have those, take my word, and make it happen.



I'm confident that I have the skills and time doesn't seem like an issue right now at least I don't see any need for finishing it by next week ... but determination may prove to be a problem.

I think I need to write a more specific feature list and start thinking about possible technical solutions next.

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

posted posted 03-11-2008 16:20

Belief stimulates determination. And yes, if you put your hands on the thing, you'll find yourself rewarded more and more,
as you see it "grow", kinda like a plant.

WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 03-11-2008 16:22

You will have the problem of those who will at some point down the road, demand that their "idea" and all references to it be removed from the website.

I'm not sure if having a disclaimer that one has to agree to would help prevent it.

I think the idea is an interesting one - Wikileaks is an example of a site that preserves knowledge - one might wish to look into that as a model.

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

posted posted 03-11-2008 16:27

Good point. I think it's the law of the "hosting country" which applies.
Here in Switzerland, what I have done to rule out problems like this, in addition to getting documented myself about the law,
is contract a "legal protection insurance" : for a small fee a year, I get legal counselling and additional services.

Such a protection should be enough to prevent the problem.

Arthurio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: cell 3736
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 03-11-2008 16:44

Thanks for the advice.

I expect a lot of problems once this thing is up and running. Spam, attacks, complaints etc. I don't want to go that deep yet tho. Need to get the basics in check first

Ideally the system would be fully automatic. For two obvious reasons: reduced financial cost and removal of human (moderator) factor. This thing would heavily rely on it's integrity.

(Edited by Arthurio on 03-11-2008 16:49)

Arthurio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: cell 3736
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 03-13-2008 17:07

I wrote something that resembles a document. Do you think I should show it to you? I mean it's ozoneasylum so it will be on Google automatically ...
I'd really like some feedback tho... :/

WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 03-13-2008 17:24

You can post it down in the Basement (Mad Scientist area) and it will not be picked up on Google.

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

Arthurio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: cell 3736
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 03-13-2008 17:27

oh ok ... thx
I didn't know that.

kimson
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Royal Horsing Ground
Insane since: Jan 2005

posted posted 03-13-2008 18:14
quote:

Arthurio said:

kimson: do you know any other similar sites? I tried to look but still couldn't find anything. Which in itself seems to be a good sign. Or a bad one ... I wonder how many people have thought of it and dismissed it as silly or unnecessary or simply didn't have the time/resources/skills to make it happen.


I cannot find anything else myself, but have only been looking through the first 2-3 pages of Google with a few obvious keywords...
By the way, I am sure you can do better than the link I posted Can you read the menu items? I can't.
I will keep you posted if I come across anything else.

Arthurio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: cell 3736
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 03-13-2008 19:50
quote:

kimson said:
Can you read the menu items? I can't.I will keep you posted if I come across anything else.



Thanks a bunch. I guess that's what the Magnifier tool in Windows is for. So that websites with disabilities become accessible to normal people

Arthurio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: cell 3736
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 03-28-2008 17:27

http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/

This is so cool ... I mean the features and configurability are just great.



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