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SleepingWolf
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2006

posted posted 03-14-2008 00:32

I definitely have to find a new host..but are they all the same incompetents?
Their server crashed hard again, they restored the site but I'm locked out of any CMS (PHP/MYSQL) applications which means my blog for example.

Me (online): Hi, can't access my blog and same with FTP
Offshore tech support (after 10 minutes): Needs senior technician, will open ticket.
Email from them: Issue has been resolved.

I check..nope.
Me (email) - provide links and descriptions of problems - 1 page worth.

Email back from them: Here is your password for FTP and site is visible for us, nice wolf photo.

Me (Email) - I can see site too, just can't login...and I do know my password...


Flashback to about 2 months. Server crash. Folder with 50+ photos not restored when they restore site.

Offshore Tech Support 1: Sorry photos lost not in backup. Sorry for inconvenience.

one day later

Offshore Tech Support 2: Sorry photos lost not in backup. Sorry for inconvenience.

I pick up phone and talk to senior technician. Folder restored later that night.

Flash forward: Me - getting ready to slice my wrists.

So anyone out there have lessons learned from migrating tons of crap to a new host??

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(Edited by SleepingWolf on 03-14-2008 00:34)

Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 03-14-2008 19:11

Who do you use right now?

Blaise
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: London
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 03-14-2008 19:28

I use OCS Solutions and I'm really pleased with their service so far.

I've not been with them for that long (6 months), but I've never had a problem, and support that I have required has been resolved very quickly.

NoJive
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The Land of one Headlight on.
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 03-14-2008 20:23

if memory serves you're in Eastern Canada so I don't know how well this might work for you. but I can tell you I'm very much pleased with these guys...did I say very very pleased. =) I know squat about any of this back end stuff other than ftp and whenever I've had problems they've walked me through it every time.

I don't think I've ever been put on hold and most usually the person who answers the phone is your support guy. It's the 'hours' of phone support that might not make it for you. The nice thing for me...it's a local phone call.... and there's an actual physical door I can knock on if I so desire.

If you dig your way through the site there's a pic of most of them... a thousand words and all that. =)
http://baremetal.com/

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Tyberius Prime
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 03-14-2008 20:23
quote:
So anyone out there have lessons learned from migrating tons of crap to a new host??



Plenty. Make sure you have your own backups. Have the old plan run longer than the actual move.
Plan in downtime.

so long,

->Tyberius Prime

SleepingWolf
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2006

posted posted 03-14-2008 20:35

Yes I'm on the East Coast of Canada (almost) but I don't care if the provider is in the U.S.
Right now the provider I have, Webserve.ca, is on the West Coast.
I can't access any of my CMS - "you don't access to this server".
It's been 4 days now..if I phone I just get put on hold.
They answer my emails by saying

quote:
Hello,

We apologize for inconvenienced caused to you. We are monitoring server and services and you should not face any issue with your service now onwards.

Now your site http://sleepingwolves.com/ is up please let us know if you are experiencing any issues. Please let us know the steps.




Over and over. They don't even bother to read my email, to understand I can't login. All they must do is navigate to the splash page and say...ok, it's up now. This is the worst service you can imagine. Total incompetence.

MySQL database is backed-up, so are the static elements (photos, html, flash, etc.).
Will do search and replace wherever I need to adjust things.

I feel like a battered spouse now...not looking forward to a new relationship to get beaten up again.

What about DNS servers? Will I need to do anything? Not that a delay will do any harm given it's just a personal site.

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(Edited by SleepingWolf on 03-14-2008 20:37)

SleepingWolf
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2006

posted posted 03-14-2008 20:53

What about the big boyz like Yahoo or Dreamhost?
Would they have better quality servers and redundancy.
Right now I think i'm being hosted on a open box special from best buy.

I checked the Dreamhost site and what they offer from a quantity perspective is lightyears ahead of the crap I'm paying for. But what about quality?

I don't any tech support whatsoever unless it's to fix what they broke themselves.

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Arthurio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: cell 3736
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 03-14-2008 21:17

Well ozoneasylum is hosted by Dreamhost ... decide for yourself ... I haven't noticed any problems. I'd go for dreamhost overall... (and I did) because you get an unbelievable package ... not just the bandwidth and disk space but also other features ... and these things in my eyes make up for the glitches and small problems dreamhost may have. Today I contacted support and I got a fix and an a nice honest answer in less than an hour. I'm very pleased with that.

edit: btw I marked my support request as level 2 importance of the 5 options (5. being the most critical)

(Edited by Arthurio on 03-14-2008 21:21)

SleepingWolf
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2006

posted posted 03-14-2008 23:31

Thanks Arthurio

TP: Are you happy with DreamHost.
I remember the server problems the Asylum had not too long ago.
Were those hosting problems?
How would your rate them. Like Arthurio said you can't beat the packages they offer.

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(Edited by SleepingWolf on 03-15-2008 00:08)

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 03-15-2008 13:20

I've heard good things about this mob, but that's all it is, hearsay. I plan on getting an account with them once I have something in my bank account that resembles money again. Or maybe I'll just steal hosting space on the new HA web cluster I just brought online... hmm...


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SleepingWolf
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2006

posted posted 03-15-2008 17:31

Thanks guys.
I have looked at reviews of hosts in general on the net and I think that for each thumbs up most get 20 thumbs down.
I let Webserve.ca know that I will never deal with them again - finished.
Then I went in to Plesk to do one final backup and it returned a 0 byte sql file?
So I can't login to any MySQL based content and now I can't backup my site. My last backup was in Jan.
What's going on?

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SleepingWolf
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From:
Insane since: Jul 2006

posted posted 03-15-2008 17:42
quote:

Skaarjj said:

I've heard good things about this mob, but that's all it is, hearsay. I plan on getting an account with them once I have something in my bank account that resembles money again. Or maybe I'll just steal hosting space on the new HA web cluster I just brought online... hmm...Justice 4 Pat Richard




Just in passing, you need to sign a 10 year contract (no shit) to get the rates on the splash page.

quote:
* Pricing based on a 10 year billing cycle. Shorter terms are available at an increased monthly cost.



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WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 03-16-2008 10:30

I have a 20 USD a month account with slicehost, they give you a VPS. This means you setup your server however you want, but it also means that you have to setup your own server.

I have about 10 sites up and running on the VPS, two of the sites are memory hog rails sites, and the rest are PHP based. The box gets between around 1k uniques a day and runs just fine.

I really like the service and the community they have built up around them.

http://slicehost.com

The wait period they give you on getting the VPS is normally way overstated.

Dan
Code Town | Zombie Head | How Much TP? | Feed The Blob

SleepingWolf
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2006

posted posted 03-16-2008 17:27
quote:

WarMage said:

I have a 20 USD a month account with slicehost, they give you a VPS. This means you setup your server however you want, but it also means that you have to setup your own server.I have about 10 sites up and running on the VPS, two of the sites are memory hog rails sites, and the rest are PHP based. The box gets between around 1k uniques a day and runs just fine.I really like the service and the community they have built up around them.http://slicehost.comThe wait period they give you on getting the VPS is normally way overstated.DanCode Town | Zombie Head | How Much TP? | Feed The Blob



Interesting concept Dan..but overkill for me - not to mention I don't have a box.
My needs are very simple, one domain, about 5 GB of storage (I have 1 with my current plan) and about max 100GB of bandwidth (I hit about 25 at peaks right now, but lots of hosts are providing huge bw.)

I would love to host myself at home but that violate my ISP contract. If I could, I'd buy the box and learn tons in the process - would not have to worry about the site going down either as it is not a commercial one.

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Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 03-19-2008 13:41

Just a note for you, SW: SliceHost don't get you to send them a box. They give you a virtual machine on one of their hosting platforms, and you set up the server yourself. The might install the base OS for you, but I don't know. I know the hosting concept, though, because my company does a little of it too.


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SleepingWolf
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2006

posted posted 03-19-2008 23:25
quote:

Skaarjj said:

Just a note for you, SW: SliceHost don't get you to send them a box. They give you a virtual machine on one of their hosting platforms, and you set up the server yourself. The might install the base OS for you, but I don't know. I know the hosting concept, though, because my company does a little of it too.Justice 4 Pat Richard



How would you setup the server remotely. Through FTP? That would be so slow...

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WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 03-20-2008 00:34

You get ssh access. You can remotely administrate the box any way you want to. Since it is a virtual host you can easily wipe it, install a new OS and start over.

It is a very cool concept. It might be overkill for many people, but when you get into more advanced and custom applications it is the only way to go other than hosting it yourself.

I moved over to them because it was too much of a headache dealing with power outages at my house which would require me to update all my DNS records for a new IP address.

Dan
Code Town | Zombie Head | How Much TP? | Feed The Blob

SleepingWolf
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2006

posted posted 03-20-2008 00:46

Sounds interesting but I want a Unix host and I have no experience with Linux.

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