quote:Whatever the ultimate merit of such views, they clearly stand at odds with the most basic tenets of scientific work such as observation, testing and analysis
Finally a little common sense in a news article Whoo!
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Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature.
I believe this is true as the majority of us who believe in God, the designer of all things, should not believe God is confined in creative limits. In God, for us there are no boundaries in God's intelligence in all things. I believe space and time cannot confine God.
Maybe I missed the point but what does "believing in extraterrestrial beings" and "Texas Rejects Creationist Science Degree Accreditation" have to do with each other?
From: there...no..there..... Insane since: May 2001
posted 05-16-2008 22:57
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"Education Department spokesman Jim Foster says the bill is unnecessary. Foster says teachers already are free to discuss science. He says the bill would only be needed if it was designed to introduce material that is not scientific."
From: there...no..there..... Insane since: May 2001
posted 05-17-2008 15:52
WebShaman, I took that to mean that Foster has no quibbles about the teachers teaching a scientific nature to the where the earth came from and such. Is that not right? Maybe I just misread it.
Science is an invaluable tool and it's extremely important to our daily lives, but it isn't the answer to everything. There is a danger of quite literally being "blinded by science" and I think some of the above comments demonstrate that.
I don't find the decision in the original article to be surprising. It should only come as a surprise to someone who holds a prejudiced view of those living in the South and the state of Texas.
It's also important to understand that "young earth creationism" is not the only view in the Christian community. I certainly don't agree with it and even among the ranks of creationists I believe it's a minority position.
Science is an invaluable tool and it's extremely important to our daily lives, but it isn't the answer to everything. There is a danger of quite literally being "blinded by science" and I think some of the above comments demonstrate that.
Context...
We are talking about science education.
When it comes to science education...science is pretty much always the answer
I can't help but chime in again, even with the shameful knowledge that I'm contributing little other than a boisterous cheer, but I have to support the presented argument of a difference between theological and scientific education. As far as I am concerned, theology deserves little more importance in education than a side note (motivations; genocide, for example) to pretty much all of morbid interest in historical education. I have long held the firm opinion that not only is religion an issue of intensely personal and private belief, but that indoctrinated and instituted (i.e- organised) religion has no place in a truly enlightened society.
I am pretty much convinced that while this view may stick in a few throats, it is hardly radical.
Might I add that the 'two back' I expected were amply supplied by South Carolina's effort, as referred to by DL-44. Much as it dismays me, I take some solace from the knowledge that the disappointments I anticipate are often fulfilled. There is some comfort in the predictability of things, even if relying upon the cynical presumption that humans are, on the whole, little better than sheep.
The sad thing is that it's all going to get so much worse before it gets better. History repeats.
Your view about religion being irrelevant doesn't stick in my throat, WH. I would simply beg to differ with you on that. I question whether you've given all forms of organized religion an unbiased and objective look over. You can no doubt point to many cases where organized religion has done harm as can I. But I can tell you from personal experience that I have received, and have helped provide, extraordinary comfort and aid in my daily life from what you say should remain private to the individual. Had others kept their faith from me and I from them no benefit would have been possible.
quote:Science curriculum, which includes the divisive teaching of evolution, is next up for review by the board.
"It does not bode well for any of us with the science (curriculum) review coming up," Canaday said. "Everyone I spoke to about this week's meetings asked me why on earth would English be considered a controversial subject. If it's this difficult to change the English curriculum, it's just going to be a war when it comes time for them to try to agree on science standards."
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Bugimus; I respect the fact that you have the strength of your convictions.
I was looking forward to a nice, quiet Bank Holiday weekend. Unfortunately, the water company decided that this was a good weekend to dig the road up outside my bedroom window - the noise is astounding, especially as they've been going through cement as well as tar mac. Just as I was settling down with it (thanks to the remarkable ability of the human mind to shut out some of the more unpleasant things), my doorbell rang. The irritation of having some local door-to-door religion pedlars twice ringing my doorbell (failing to take a hint when no answer came the first time) was quite enough to ruin my resolve to ignore the noise, and it quite ruined my afternoon. I was quite capable of maintaining a smile and healthy attitude before religion came into my day.
So you see? Pushing faith just makes everything worse. :P (tongue-in-cheek) I'm just being silly now, of course.
OZONE Asylum
posted 05-05-2008 17:53
Whoo!
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