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NoJive
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The Land of one Headlight on.
Insane since: May 2001

IP logged posted posted 05-05-2008 17:53 Edit Quote

Who'd have thunk. =)

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/texas-rejects-creationist-science-degree-accreditation

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?It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.? Voltaire

Lord_Fukutoku
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: San Antonio
Insane since: Jul 2002

IP logged posted posted 05-05-2008 23:46 Edit Quote
quote:
Whatever the ultimate merit of such views, they clearly stand at odds with the most basic tenets of scientific work such as observation, testing and analysis


Finally a little common sense in a news article Whoo!

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Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature.

WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: The Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

IP logged posted posted 05-06-2008 13:28 Edit Quote

Thank god!

Seriously, a small step forwards for the state, a giant step forwards for the nation!

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

White Hawk
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

IP logged posted posted 05-06-2008 14:12 Edit Quote

That's one forward... waiting for the two back...

DL-44
Lunatic (VI) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

IP logged posted posted 05-07-2008 02:50 Edit Quote
quote:

White Hawk said:

That's one forward... waiting for the two back...



don't worry, Florida will give it to us... [quote]

(Edited by DL-44 on 05-07-2008 02:51)

jade
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: houston, tx usa
Insane since: Mar 2003

IP logged posted posted 05-14-2008 15:45 Edit Quote

This article refers to this thread.


I believe this is true as the majority of us who believe in God, the designer of all things, should not believe God is confined in creative limits. In God, for us there are no boundaries in God's intelligence in all things. I believe space and time cannot confine God.

http://news.yahoohttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080513/ap_on_re_eu/vatican_alienss/ap/20080513/ap_on_re_eu/vatican_aliens

WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: The Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

IP logged posted posted 05-15-2008 09:29 Edit Quote

Yes Jade, but can you prove it scientifically?

If not, then it should not be taught in schools.

Period.

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

IP logged posted posted 05-15-2008 17:11 Edit Quote
quote:

jade said:

http://news.yahoohttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080513/ap_on_re_eu/vatican_alienss/ap/20080513/ap_on_re_eu/vatican_aliens




let's fix that link for others... : http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080513/ap_on_re_eu/vatican_aliens

Maybe I missed the point but what does "believing in extraterrestrial beings" and "Texas Rejects Creationist Science Degree Accreditation" have to do with each other?


Later,

C:\

(Edited by CPrompt on 05-15-2008 17:17)

DL-44
Lunatic (VI) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

IP logged posted posted 05-16-2008 19:01 Edit Quote

and now South Carolina joins the idiot bin...

CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

IP logged posted posted 05-16-2008 22:57 Edit Quote
quote:


"Education Department spokesman Jim Foster says the bill is unnecessary. Foster says teachers already are free to discuss science. He says the bill would only be needed if it was designed to introduce material that is not scientific."




let's just hope that he sticks to it.

Later,

C:\

WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: The Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

IP logged posted posted 05-17-2008 13:08 Edit Quote
quote:
Foster says teachers already are free to discuss science.



And that, folks, is the crux of the matter.

Period.

Just another example of the Religious Right in the Republican Party - well, wait until he is up for re-election...

Repubs are getting their asses handed to them.

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

IP logged posted posted 05-17-2008 15:52 Edit Quote

WebShaman, I took that to mean that Foster has no quibbles about the teachers teaching a scientific nature to the where the earth came from and such. Is that not right? Maybe I just misread it.

Later,

C:\

WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: The Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

IP logged posted posted 05-18-2008 11:59 Edit Quote

If it is soundly based in Science, then by all means...

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

IP logged posted posted 05-23-2008 19:16 Edit Quote

Science is an invaluable tool and it's extremely important to our daily lives, but it isn't the answer to everything. There is a danger of quite literally being "blinded by science" and I think some of the above comments demonstrate that.

I don't find the decision in the original article to be surprising. It should only come as a surprise to someone who holds a prejudiced view of those living in the South and the state of Texas.

It's also important to understand that "young earth creationism" is not the only view in the Christian community. I certainly don't agree with it and even among the ranks of creationists I believe it's a minority position.

. . . : : . . Innervating Your Eyes & Mind : . . .

DL-44
Lunatic (VI) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

IP logged posted posted 05-23-2008 19:43 Edit Quote
quote:

Bugimus said:

Science is an invaluable tool and it's extremely important to our daily lives, but it isn't the answer to everything. There is a danger of quite literally being "blinded by science" and I think some of the above comments demonstrate that.


Context...

We are talking about science education.
When it comes to science education...science is pretty much always the answer

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

IP logged posted posted 05-23-2008 20:13 Edit Quote

Point well taken

. . . : : . . Innervating Your Eyes & Mind : . . .

White Hawk
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

IP logged posted posted 05-24-2008 01:24 Edit Quote

I can't help but chime in again, even with the shameful knowledge that I'm contributing little other than a boisterous cheer, but I have to support the presented argument of a difference between theological and scientific education. As far as I am concerned, theology deserves little more importance in education than a side note (motivations; genocide, for example) to pretty much all of morbid interest in historical education. I have long held the firm opinion that not only is religion an issue of intensely personal and private belief, but that indoctrinated and instituted (i.e- organised) religion has no place in a truly enlightened society.

I am pretty much convinced that while this view may stick in a few throats, it is hardly radical.

Might I add that the 'two back' I expected were amply supplied by South Carolina's effort, as referred to by DL-44. Much as it dismays me, I take some solace from the knowledge that the disappointments I anticipate are often fulfilled. There is some comfort in the predictability of things, even if relying upon the cynical presumption that humans are, on the whole, little better than sheep.

The sad thing is that it's all going to get so much worse before it gets better. History repeats.

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

IP logged posted posted 05-24-2008 05:49 Edit Quote

Your view about religion being irrelevant doesn't stick in my throat, WH. I would simply beg to differ with you on that. I question whether you've given all forms of organized religion an unbiased and objective look over. You can no doubt point to many cases where organized religion has done harm as can I. But I can tell you from personal experience that I have received, and have helped provide, extraordinary comfort and aid in my daily life from what you say should remain private to the individual. Had others kept their faith from me and I from them no benefit would have been possible.

. . . : : . . Innervating Your Eyes & Mind : . . .

DL-44
Lunatic (VI) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

IP logged posted posted 05-25-2008 04:28 Edit Quote
quote:

White Hawk said:

That's one forward... waiting for the two back...


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D90RHOOG0.html
Yep, that'll do it.

White Hawk
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

IP logged posted posted 05-25-2008 14:10 Edit Quote

Heh:

quote:
Science curriculum, which includes the divisive teaching of evolution, is next up for review by the board.

"It does not bode well for any of us with the science (curriculum) review coming up," Canaday said. "Everyone I spoke to about this week's meetings asked me why on earth would English be considered a controversial subject. If it's this difficult to change the English curriculum, it's just going to be a war when it comes time for them to try to agree on science standards."


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Bugimus; I respect the fact that you have the strength of your convictions.

I was looking forward to a nice, quiet Bank Holiday weekend. Unfortunately, the water company decided that this was a good weekend to dig the road up outside my bedroom window - the noise is astounding, especially as they've been going through cement as well as tar mac. Just as I was settling down with it (thanks to the remarkable ability of the human mind to shut out some of the more unpleasant things), my doorbell rang. The irritation of having some local door-to-door religion pedlars twice ringing my doorbell (failing to take a hint when no answer came the first time) was quite enough to ruin my resolve to ignore the noise, and it quite ruined my afternoon. I was quite capable of maintaining a smile and healthy attitude before religion came into my day.

So you see? Pushing faith just makes everything worse. :P (tongue-in-cheek) I'm just being silly now, of course.



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