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[quote] [b]Bugimus said:[/b] That is so close to sounding conspiratorial. [/quote] "Conspiracy" is such a dirty word. I prefer to think of it as "our government doing what it always has..." ;) [quote] [b]Bugimus said:[/b] I'm not sure what you're not seeing regarding this. [/quote] I'm not seeing actions that this administration has taken that are [i]actually relevant to fighting terrorism[/i]! [quote] [b]Bugimus said:[/b] You ask when... when we began our offensive in Afghanistan. You ask where... Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan and probably several other areas we're not privy to. [/quote] I don't think I can even muster response to that... It pains me to be reminded that people actually think of our actions in the middle east as somehow being a 'war on terror' [quote] [b]Bugimus said:[/b] You ask to what end... to make it possible for the people of the ME to enjoy the same freedoms that you and I currently do because I believe it's a basic human right denied to too many for too long. It's time we get back to the idea that *all* human beings deserve to live in free societies with a voice heeded by their governments. [/quote] So...you admit in the same post that we're *not* fighting a war on 'terror'? :confused: If our goal is set free the oppressed peoples of the world, you know damn well there is a very long list of places we should be 'liberating' that are in far more dire need than the middle east. Our actions don't appear to achieved this in the middle east in any way so far either. Our actions in supposedly trying to achieve this goal have been very decidedly contradictory to the idea of "freedom for all human beings". So we're clearly not fighting with that goal either. Of course, when I say 'to what end', I mean... So what are we actually accomplishing? Not, 'what is the rhetoric passed around about our supposed purpose'. Oh, we're there for "[b]Freedom[/b]?"...
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