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Your Text: Insert Slimies » Insert UBB Code » Close Last Tag \| All Tags UBB Help	[quote] [b]Bugimus said:[/b] DL, for you to see no hint of a compelling argument says to me you discount millennia of human evolution. I won't go so far as to say that shocks me but coming from someone who puts a lot of stock in science it does give me pause.. . . : : . . Innervating Your Eyes & Mind : . . . [/quote] I must reiterate what DL has said in response to this - :confused: Marriage has absolutely NOTHING to do with any Science or evolution, to be factual here. It is a human institution, a custom, a tradition. [b]IT DOES NOT EXIST IN NATURE![/b] Other words used to describe it may be Partnership, Union, etc. Only the religious would use Holy in conjunction with it as definition. DL is not only right on when he says [quote] [b]DL-44 said:[/b] I wasn't suggesting that, but that is precisely what I will say. I have seen absolutely no hint of a compelling argument in support of banning gay marriage. And yes I mean that very much, very seriously, and very simply. Other people choose to marry but are not allowed because of people who feel they have the right to tell them they cannot. How would you feel if you were told that you and your husband would not be allowed to marry, because such a marriage was seen as wrong in the eyes of someone else's religion?? Think that sounds absurd? Then you understand how your arguments sound...[/quote] but also just. This is SOLEY a personal rights issue. It is nothing but a personal rights issue. Trying to bring anything else into it is wrong. Now, I would suggest that we open up a new thread to discuss and debate this issue further. [b]On Obama and the Presidency[/b] He is already being painfully careful with the selection of those going in his Cabinet and those being selected for Office. He has also said that it is going to be a hard climb ahead. I truly expect him to have to implement things that I probably will not initially agree with, to solve some of the problems now facing America and those to come. I expect him to take the hard road, the one less travelled. I think it is far too early to make any type of judgements about what he is going to do, etc. I would suggest that we first wait and see how he assumes office, and what the first things are that he does, before even attempting to define him. I want to take this opportunity to say that none of us truly know or understand the length and breadth of the damage that 8 years of Mr. Bush has done to the nation. By this I mean that which is not visible to the public eye, including relations with other countries (stuff that goes on behind closed doors, obviously), the real economic condition of the US, etc. I am pretty sure that he is getting briefed on all this now, and it is probably a very sobering experience. One question for you, Bugs. I once asked you if you regret the actions of Mr. Bush, and you said that you loyally support him still (IIRC - please correct me if I am wrong here) In light of this [quote]"Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid may go off the deep end," said veteran GOP strategist Tony Fabrizio, referring to the Democratic House speaker and Senate majority leader. "But Obama is a very, very skillful politician. Why do we think he will suddenly become a dope . . . by lurching to the left?" Amid the hand-wringing Wednesday, conservative thinkers who helped fashion the Republican rise to power a decade ago were already moving to shape the debate about renewing it. In newspaper opinion pieces and online essays, they heaped scorn on Bush and congressional Republican leaders for expanding government, driving up the national debt and abandoning the core small-government principles of the party. "The party that we have supported has betrayed us and abandoned us," said Richard Viguerie, a leading architect of the modern conservative political movement.[/quote] and especially the state that the Republican Party is in now (not to mention the country), do you still hold to Mr. Bush loyally? [url=http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/397/]WebShaman[/url] \| [i]The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities. - Sophocles[/i] [small](Edited by [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/user/925]WebShaman[/url] on 11-06-2008 14:49)[/small] Loading...
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