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[quote] [b]jade said:[/b] Ok.. tell me the damage the marriage ban does to gay persons. [/quote] same damage it did to women who could not vote, same damage it did to african americans who couldn't eat at the same places white people did, etc... It's a right that people have to join together and express their love for one another in a ceremony. And it is recognized by all as that way. Just remember Jade, that not everyone lives their life as you do or the way in which *you* see fit. Not everyone is a Christian or believes in God. Sometimes Christians forget this simple fact (well...that and many others) [quote] [b]DL-44 said:[/b] So I have to assume then, you feel that heterosexual couples who conceive their children through the help of fertility clinics and surrogate mothers, or heterosexual couples who adopt children because they are unable to conceive are also "living a lie" and are "selfish people who handicap society"? [/quote] and you never did answer this question that DL-44 asked. Is that one of those exceptions that you are just going to chalk up to some other excuse? You don't have to be married in a church by a preacher or priest to make it official. It is still a marriage. My wife and I were married in a castle (yes a real castle) by a justice of the peace. So does that mean that we are not really married? Since it was not "In the eyes of God"?? we could do this argument all year and never come to a resolve. If I'm not mistaken we did this same thing not long ago. We claim as human beings to grow and advance and yet we can't get over some of the most simple things such as this. Everything advances in our lives around us and yet things such as religion still hold us back. And yes, it does hold back with this form of thought. It saddens me really. To think that people are so closed minded and are prejudice towards others. Have we not grown past this? This is the freakin 21st century. Good grief! Later, C:\
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