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Your Text: Insert Slimies » Insert UBB Code » Close Last Tag \| All Tags UBB Help	[quote] [b]jade said:[/b] Jestah....As long as you deal with athiest they will never see your view even when the facts are in front of them.Your well thoughout very convincing views will never satisfy them. They will say you never have a convincing argument because their ideology is very different from the masses. I don't believe gays are discriminated against either.. They,,,the homosexuals activist will never be at peace as long as they are considered "abnormal" in their sexual prefernces/tendencies for the same sex. Everything else about them in behavior will be considered as normal. So I don't see much discriminaton only what they choose to label as discrimination. [/quote] [ulist] [i]"As long as you deal with athiest they will never see your view even when the facts are in front of them..."[/i] - What facts? Please, I'd love to hear them. I love how you impose an "us versus them" mentality on everything to justify your currently unexplained and likely illogical beliefs -- all without even realizing the fallacy! [i]"...They will say you never have a convincing argument because their ideology is very different from the masses..."[/i] - You're one to talk. How do you know that you're part of "the masses"? For all you know, people who hate gays for no apparent logical reason could be the minority -- I certainly hope that they are. [i]"...I don't believe gays are discriminated against either.. They,,,the homosexuals activist will never be at peace as long as they are considered "abnormal" in their sexual prefernces/tendencies for the same sex..."[/i] - I doubt that gays are mad about being abnormal -- biologically speaking, they are very clearly abnormal, and I should hope that most of them are aware of it. The problem, though, is that we are treating them unfairly for an abnormality that is completely beyond their control. I wonder, do you approve of the unfair treatment that blacks and women received for several centuries? They were treated like shit because they had an abnormality that was completely beyond their control. [i]"So I don't see much discriminaton only what they choose to label as discrimination."[/i] - I'm sure that white slaveowners didn't see their brutal and unfair practices as "discrimination" either -- the only discrimination was what black slaves labeled as discrimination. Does that mean that it wasn't discrimination? [/ulist] [quote] [b]jade said:[/b] [quote]WTF does this have to do with atheism? And where has any "well thought out very convincing view" been presented that supports the views you state on the subject? Certainly not in this thread...And what facts, exactly, are in front of us that you feel we are failing to see?[/quote] you see what i mean...you never conceed to any view opposed to yours..."like thats true...you make a good point, I can see that too...maybe" Like there could never possibly be any middle ground. No explaination is good enough for your train of thought on some issues. Its either your way or the highway...in ideoogy. Becaues its correct for you doesn't mean its correct for the rest of the world. Thats why posters give up on you,....your .......your..."terco".....well I said it. Its true... Most people of religious faith are against "some gay right issues" that they feel are not based on discrimination... We can all yell discrimination in our life reagarding certian habits, choices...like: being female. being fat, ugly being hispanic being religious being liberal being conservative being promiscious being white being black being a jerk being morman being mexican being black being indian being beautiful being intelligent as opposed to being stupid being single being married being in a "live in not married relationship" being lazy being un-academic See...these who are listed above can claim discrimination too. Get my point. [/quote] [ulist] [i]"you see what i mean...you never conceed to any view opposed to yours..."like thats true...you make a good point, I can see that too...maybe" Like there could never possibly be any middle ground."[/i] - When Jestah makes a good point, that point will be recognized as such. And no, there is no middle ground: either you do discriminate, or you don't. [i]"No explaination is good enough for your train of thought on some issues. Its either your way or the highway...in ideoogy. Becaues its correct for you doesn't mean its correct for the rest of the world. Thats why posters give up on you,....your .......your..."terco".....well I said it. Its true..."[/i] - When someone thinks of a logical, well-thought out reason to discriminate against homosexuals, one based solely in valid, proven fact, and not in opinion, not in unproven mythologies such as religion, not in hyperbole or ad hominem -- cold, hard facts, and absolutely nothing more... That's the kind of explanation that is needed. We -- the guys that don't hate gays -- have logical reasons and comparisons showing why we shouldn't hate gays. You -- the guys that do -- don't. *[i]"Most people of religious faith are against "some gay right issues" that they feel are not based on discrimination..."[/i] - Motive is irrelevant -- it's still discrimination. "[i]Hey, I know, let's treat people unfairly just because they have an uncontrollable psychological abnormality that is being denounced by some ancient, unproven, pre-B.C.E. book written by naive cavemen who were so intellectually primitive that they thought the sun went around the Earth! What a great idea![/i]" Please explain to me how that's not discrimination. [/ulist] ---------------------- [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/30926][img]http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/268/cellu.gif[/img][/url][url=http://davidjcobb.deviantart.com/][img]http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/428/24464470.gif[/img][/url][url=http://getfirefox.com/][img]http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6336/25338231.gif[/img][/url][img]http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2163/end.gif[/img] [small](Edited by [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/user/6997]DavidJCobb[/url] on 06-09-2009 00:55)[/small] Loading...
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