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Your Text: Insert Slimies » Insert UBB Code » Close Last Tag \| All Tags UBB Help	[quote]They have already been presented with all the Biological Facts and Evidence against Homosexuality in Nature.[/quote] Errr...no? :confused: You never presented any - in fact, it is the other way around. You were presented with biological examples of natural homosexual cases (that have been peer reviewed) and since it occurs in nature, it is natural. [quote]They have already been presented with all the rebuttals to points they have raised for Gay Rights (it was actually discussed under topics discussing Gay Marriage).[/quote] Errr...no? :confused: In fact, such never was presented by you (nor anyone). Bugs raised some points, but even he had problems supporting them. [quote]Webshaman & DL reject all this on Athiest grounds. They believe that Homosexuality is a gift from Life.[/quote] :confused: I don't reject things on Athiest grounds. Where ever did you get that idea? I base my acceptance or rejection of something based soley on the factual evidence (or lack thereof) and validity of a thing. I do not believe that Homosecuality is a gift from Life. That is just plain ridiculous! I believe that it is a natural process that has been observed and documented in Nature (and you were presented with such evidence, and you can easily research it with Google). If you wish, I will provide you with links. [quote]Since this is based on BELIEF, with no scientific evidence nothing you say or trott out before their eyes will convince them to change their stance or position. We know this, because its been tried it, many, many, many times before.[/quote] Quite the contrary here. [quote]DL...why has the US supreme court in their supreme intelligence regarding law want to keep gays in the closet in the military .... 3rd request. Answer this too Webshaman. Why is this Supreme court ruling good for our US of A.[/quote] First of all, the US Supreme Court consists of people - just like you and me. They are not inhuman. So to suggest that they have "supreme intelligence" is misguided. In regards to the Military, I quite frankly believe (note that I do not know the real reasons each Judge had for voting as they did on the issue - anyone got a link?) that they did it to actually protect Homosexuals from Hetrosexuals. If one is on a battlefield (something, Jade, that I rather suspect you have no experience of), I woudn't want someone that hates me for what I am to have a gun in their hands and every opportunity to use it on me. We know that women in the Military are in danger of getting raped, especially in combat - Iraq has proved this very well. I really shudder to think of what would happen if Homosexuals were known to be in certain units, and had "outed" themselves. All social transitions take time - the Military adopted a "don't tell and we will not ask" policy due to the lawsuits if you recall. I consider that a first step towards tolerance. I suspect that there will be more forthcoming. [quote]I beg to differ....love is a choice.....you choose love or you don't...you can allow youself not to love someone. And there is a thin line between what you see as lust/love..[/quote] I am not entirely sure about that - one can control oneself (re: resist the urge to do something) yes. But you cannot stop the urge at all. This is something totally different. Yes, you can control yourself to a point that you do not follow up on your feelings. But that you will have these feelings, whether or not you want to have them, is something else entirely. Are you saying that you can control yourself to a point that you can decide what you feel? In other words, you can make yourself feel attraction to the opposite sex, or even to animals? That you can make yourself hate your newborn baby, merely with mental will? If that is true, then you must be the happiest person on Earth, for you can make yourself feel indefinitely happy at all times. You do not ever suffer from sadness, pain, loneliness, loss, or suffer at all. [b]Addendum :[/b] I took the liberty of digging up some quick links for you, Jade. Have fun! :D http://www.livescience.com/bestimg/index.php?url=&cat=gayanimals http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15750604/ [i]Alfred C. Kinsey, Wardell B. Pomeroy and Clyde E. Martin, Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (Philadelphia: W. B. Saunders Company, 1948), p.651.[/i] [i]Ruth Tiffany Barnhouse, Homosexuality: a Symbolic Confusion, (New York: The Seabury Press, 1979) p.l57.[/i] [i]Sexual Orientation and Homosexuality, American Psychological Association, online at http://helping.apa.org..........[/i] [i]D'Augelli, A. R., Grossman, A. H., & Starks, M. T., "Childhood Gender Atypicality, Victimization, and PTSD Among Lesbian, Gay, and Bisexual Youth," Journal of Interpersonal Violence[/i] [i]Myers, D. G., Excerpt from Psychology, 8th edition. (New York: Worth Publishers, 2007)[/i], http://www.davidmyers.org [i]Sexual Orientation and Homosexuality, American Psychological Association[/i], online at http://helping.apa.org [i]Myers, D. G., Excerpt from Psychology, 8th edition. (New York: Worth Publishers, 2007)[/i], http://www.davidmyers.org [i]Roselli C.E., Larkin K., Schrunk J.M., Stormshak F., "Sexual partner preference, hypothalamic morphology and aromatase in rams," Physiology and Behavior, 2004, Nov 15;83(2):233-45.[/i] [url=http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/397/]WebShaman[/url] \| [i]The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities. - Sophocles[/i] [small](Edited by [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/user/925]WebShaman[/url] on 06-10-2009 17:13)[/small] Loading...
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