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Your Text: Insert Slimies » Insert UBB Code » Close Last Tag \| All Tags UBB Help	Jade, your posts demonstrate exactly your denial of the [b]facts[/b], that which DL and I have pointed out and was mentioned in this thread (among others), which you say you do not engage in. I posted them, you just denied them. Did you even read the links and material I posted? I offer proof, you do not. Please post your links, and please show me where your evidence holds up under peer review. I have done this. The plain fact of the matter is, regardless of what you may consider to be "choice", that homosexuality occurs in Nature. Now let us address this : [quote]Look,, found this regarding human choices in human nature where there is a will to do or not do. What sets up apart from animals is our choice. Would you do the same thing if there was no opposite sex for you for the next up to 99 years or less in prison life? Or would you remain celibate till death? In prisons, men who are deprived of women, often turn to each other to satisfy their needs. Men in captivity or stranded alone together in general tend to do so. It is the common need of feeling touch and connection to another person aside from the sexual release. Women too, find comfort and love in each other?s bodies if there are no alternatives in captivity. The studies then show that these same people revert to their basic sexuality after the event ends. It is rare psychologically for them to continue with homosexual activities after the fact.[/quote] This is actually pretty funny, because what you have posted is actually examples of heterosexuals engaging in homosexual activities when they are denied the opportunity to satisfy their heterosexual urges with someone of the opposite sex! You did read the part that such revert back to their basic sexuality after the event ends (which is denial of a normal way to satisfy their sexual urges without another choice!) In other words, one [b]CANNOT[/b] make someone change their sexuality permanently! It can be suppressed, and it can be temporarily altered if the stress of the environment is great enough, but when presented with an environment where that is not so, it immediately reverts back to "normal". And if you are asking me this question, I have no idea what I would be capable of doing in such an environment - as I have never been subjected to it. Regardless or not if someone wishes to refuse their urges, hold them under control, humans have them. Homosexuals have urges and respond to the same sex in the EXACT same way that heterosexuals respond to the opposite sex. Or are you denying this as well? As to your assumption that I have not investigated the issue thoroughly (and I have, I have researched the many sides to the issue - being that there are more than two, the one that is best factually and scientifically supported is that homosexuality is natural) is groundless, because it is incorrect as well. I find it interesting that you say that you can control attraction if you do not wish to be attracted. I would bet that if you were tested (there are ways that one can test if you are attracted or not, by monitoring that part of the brain that responds when attracted, and by measuring pulserate, and other things) that you indeed have a physiological response (because otherwise, you would not be human). There was recently testing done on this - some surprising results came out of it, mostly surrounding women. Most women would report that they were not aroused or attracted, when both the areas of the brain that are responsible for attraction and arousal were active AND physiological reactions were measured! This study seems to indicate that women's bodies and the physiological reaction to arousal and attraction is not directly coupled to the conscious thought processes in women as it is in most men. But make no mistake - all the women in the study did show arousal and attraction physiologically. I think what you mean here is that you control your urge to attraction - which is different than not having any at all (on the other hand, perhaps you are not consciously aware that you are attracted and/or aroused). What I want to know is, why should homosexuals not love one another and not have sex (as long as they are adults and consenting) to express their love? Why shouldn't they be allowed to marry one another in a bond of love? Please base your answers to these questions factually, with evidence supporting your postion that has withstood peer review. Note that this rules the Bible out. As for this little snippet [quote]For us the homosexual lifestyle is one that is contrary to the nature of what God intended the human body created for.[/quote] I am interested where you are getting this information of what "god" intended. I truly hope you have something better and more substantial as the Bible here. If it is the Bible, please name the passages. Note that I will be using the texts and translations for the ancient Greek and Hebrew versions to refute any and all the passages that you might site from your bible, should that be your source. I hope you have boned up on your ancient Greek and Hebrew. I have. [url=http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/397/]WebShaman[/url] \| [i]The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities. - Sophocles[/i] [small](Edited by [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/user/925]WebShaman[/url] on 06-10-2009 23:55)[/small] Loading...
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