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Your Text: Insert Slimies » Insert UBB Code » Close Last Tag \| All Tags UBB Help	[quote] [b]WebShaman said:[/b] DavidJCobb, you will not reach Jade. She has already been presented with all the Biological Facts and Evidence in support of Homosexuality in Nature. [...] [/quote] I know, but I just [i]love[/i] participating in the intellectual pwnage of people who consistently fail to use logic and reason! :D ----- [quote] [b]jade said:[/b] This is my "Feelings" regarding homosexual lifestyle......In view of the Christian teachings on the subject of homosexuality, the profession is that this lifestyle if chosen in practice can never be of a holy nature if that is what the individual is seeking. Many in the homosexual community yearn to have their homosexual nature/desire validated by a religious umbrella as if to state, God made me this way so I must be ok. Or God does not create anything bad so I must be normal. And many homosexuals do believe in God. They are not Godless. I would pray and hope those who have homosexual tendencies find the peace they yearn for in life. A homosexual lifestyle lived is a hard road to take. [/quote] I submit to you several counterpoints that you will most likely fail to understand or even consider. [ulist] Your profession is irrelevant if it contradicts the very potent combination of biological fact and simple logic -- and multiple members in this topic have very clearly demonstrated that it does. Actually, I would say that most gays don't give a flying crap about [i]religious[/i] validation as much as they do [i]societal[/i] violation. They're not yelling at God, they're not asking the Pope for rights, they're asking the people, the government, the media, for equality -- equality that they deserve. Your idea of what's right, your idea of what's moral, the only way that's relevant to the gay rights movement is that said "morality" only leads to hatred, bigotry, ignorance, and numerous other fallacies that have only made the world worse. Obviously, some gays do believe in God, but considering that there are multiple interpretations and ways of practicing Christianity -- and that more and more churches are starting to open their doors to homosexuals -- your morals, hell, the morals of your entire church, are only relevant to them in regards to the discrimination that you perpetrate. [/ulist] [quote] [b]jade said:[/b] We all must make choices in life on how we want to live according to the principles we were taught or embraced. Christians, believe God loves all those who consider themselves homosexual just as much as he loves all those who call themselves heterosexual. Personally, if asked, I would never tell one that to practice homosexuality is good and do whatever makes you happy. Christianity for us is to love everyone, regardless of the act or lifestyle they choose we consider immoral. Our message in spreading the Good News of Salvation is that Christ is coming to each of us ?no matter how wretched a person becomes in through their actions. [/quote] So it's not that God hates gays... It's just that he finds them disgusting, revolting, morally reprehensible, and not deserving of equal treatment or rights? Please tell me that that is not your idea of a fair and just God. Hell, if there is a God, and he really gives a damn about something as minor as a person's sexual orientation, then humanity would probably be better off in [i]Hell[/i]. [quote] [b]jade said:[/b] The road to salvation is hard and the path is narrow if we can make it we will be rewarded for our courage to be strong. In many tenants of faith of different denominations, the human anatomy is looked upon as a beautiful piece of creation in its make up, intelligence and in its gifted senses. But for us the most sacred part of a human person is what it contains in its spiritual nature. A human person reflects what it is on the inside in how he/she relates. The heterosexual and homosexual who uses their body for sexual gratification reflects what state their soul is. For believers, to engage in a union that bears no fruit never benefits society as a whole race of people. It only serves the self-gratification of the individual who gives into the lustful they inherit.[/quote] So I suppose people who are infertile are also worthless? And people that have sex for non-reproductive purposes are committing immoral acts? Screw the individual, society's all that matters! [quote] [b]jade said:[/b] What sets us apart from the animal is our ability to reason in what draws us to act morally and responsibility as a community and to each other. Each species of humankind is a compliment to one another. The nicest way to relate this is the plumbing that was installed in each speices to create new life in the multitudes. It fits. [/quote] There are almost certainly numerous homosexual people who reason far better than you are now, and are likely far more responsible than you as well. By the way, there's only [i]one[/i] species of humans -- [i]Homo sapiens[/i] -- because we actually killed off other species like the Neanderthals. Also, how does the ability to use logic, use reason, possess intelligence... How does [i]any[/i] of that relate to the filling of orifices for the purposes of reproduction? Or are there people whose intellects are concentrated in their genitalia? If such people exist, we should probably refer them to the government for immediate study, as a second brain would be a very useful augmentation to the first, even if the second were to be placed within the ballsack. [quote] [b]jade said:[/b] For us the homosexual lifestyle is one that is contrary to the nature of what God intended the human body created for. This has been said over and over again. I know,.. but its one we never lose faith in. To abuse the body and manipulate it for a purpose other than what it was designed for is defiling it according to many religious beliefs. Many people of faith will never lose sight of their convictions no matter how many homosexuals argue or debate their cause to live openly as comparable to heterosexuals do in society. We don?t become defeatist in our desire to have our many brothers and sisters in the homosexual community come to know God in his holiness. Since our only goal is to be holy and pleasing in all our actions to God, we are on a mission to make this a holier place. Many would see this as a prejudice or intolerance, bigotry or hatred. Call it what you will, but that is not what we call it. We call it love for of fellow man in Christ.[/quote] So let me get this straight... [ulist] The only reason we exist is so that we can reproduce. All those who fail to reproduce, be it due to homosexuality or infertility or some other reason, are useless deadbeats who contribute nothing to society and thus do not deserve equality or fair treatment. Faith is a perfectly good justification for blind, stubborn ignorance to facts that can be proven with little more than basic biology and logic. "[i]Screw your fossil evidence and your psychological tests, we have an ancient book written by cavemen who thought the Sun went around the Earth![/i]" Prejudice, bigotry, and discrimination are not hateful if they're masked under a facade of good intentions. A dude practicing "love for his fellow man" isn't gay. ROFL. [/ulist] I think I'm done, unless I get some more comedy fodder. ---------------------- [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/30926][img]http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/268/cellu.gif[/img][/url][url=http://davidjcobb.deviantart.com/][img]http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/428/24464470.gif[/img][/url][url=http://getfirefox.com/][img]http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6336/25338231.gif[/img][/url][img]http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2163/end.gif[/img] Loading...
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