Topic awaiting preservation: manip or not?

have a look at this and tell me if you think it's a manipulation or not.

If it is it's very well done.

It comes from a professional photographer who states that it's NOT a manip, or a shark, but a dolphin so that gives heavy weight to the 'not a manip' side of the arguement but I have trouble with a few things:

1. that's the largest dolphin I've ever seen or the smallest surfer. I'm assuming by the muscle on the surfer that it's not a child.

2. the dorsal fin and the tail seem consistent in shape with that of a porpoise/dolphin, yet the tail appears rotated 90 degrees from where a real porpoises would be fixed, making it all the more shark-like-looking.

3. the head of the beast looks very sharky but the water is doing some heavy curling and darkening at that point and it be hard to tell what's up there without some real world simulation.

Maybe the photographer will check his referrer logs and come have a chat with us. In the meantime, what do you think?

Jason

JKMabry: I think you broke their site!!

Now there is an idea amimanipornot

It also has the word porn in there as an added bonus.

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huh, it's working for me, there are some spaces is his directory names if that's htrowin a curve to your browser mebbe? Dunno how that stuff's handled by everyone.

you have a keen eye for porn man, kudos =D

Jason

Actually doesn't look too big for an open water dolphin (6-9 feet for atlantic and more for pacific dolphins).

But you're right about the tail looking a bit wierd but the dolphin is at an angle and before and after a "kick" both sides of the tail would line up vertically looking a bit sharkish.

I'm also betting if it were a shark the surfer would be pointed the other way



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Doesn't look like a manip.

1. Looks like the normal size of a dolphin (they're much larger than people).
2. Aquatic mammals such as dolphins and whales have tail fins that are horizontal, where sharks and other fish have vertical tail fins. In that picture, the dolphin is slightly rotated to the left, so his tail looks right to me.
3. Because the dolphin is slightly rotated, his head looks the same as a shark's would at that angle.

Everything looks legit to me.

JKMabry:

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huh, it's working for me,

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I suspect there might be DNS issues with my ISP as there appear to be some other sites that ar up that I can't see.

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you have a keen eye for porn man, kudos =D

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Why thank you - it just sort of jumped out at me Not the first time I'm sure.............

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That's probably a legit photo ... in fact, there's been a tv program with almost the same shot of a dolphin "surfing" in a wave, and it's pretty obvious it's a dolphin, not a shark ... seems a bit pointless of him to have to say that at all. The tail shape is most likely caused by the fact that you're viewing the dolphin part-rotated.

OTOH, it is very big for a dolphin or a porpoise. I've sailed a lot, and the average size seems to be around 5-6 ft long, but I don't know about the varios sub-species and their relative sizes.

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The size of the dolphin was probably caused by lens compression. The photogs lens looks like its around 200-300mm. This compresses the depth of field, making something appear closer(and therefore bigger) than it really is.

I'm sure there is also the distance of the dolphin to the surface, and the corresponding increase in shadow size that is playing a part in the apparent large size of the dolphin. Rotation, as has been said, could easily account for the odd tail angle.

I don't have a hard time beleiveing it is legit...

nicely explained, except for my point #1, that is a mammoth thanks to bit for the 9 foot dolphin scare. That thing looks 12.

Jason

Killerwhales aka Blackfish are "Dolphins." And that outline sure does look similar.

yeah..what synax said.
oh and all these other pics are surfing pics only, so i think this one is a real-special one.

elysiumart

Killer Whales (orca) don't have pointy noses.


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[This message has been edited by trib (edited 07-16-2003).]

Maybe the shape of the wave is distorting the length of the dolphin, looking at objects through water has a tendency to act like a magnifying glass at times. Shark or dolphin, it does look horribly skinny.

As for the tail, that could in part caused by the wave as well, grab the eye dropper tool and pick around it a bit, you'll notice that the colours of the supposed tail are almost identical to some of the other water colours in close proximity. Maybe the highlights and shadows of the wave itself kind of "outline" it to look like it's part of the tail when it really isn't.

Nice photo though.

I agree with all the points to say it is a dolphin, the pointy nose looks to be the result of the shimmer of the water beneath, if you look carefully it almost looks as if the water itself is casting a shadow upon it.

I personally want to know what this one is. Seaweed?

Yeah, looks like seaweed to me, or i could be a dolphin with a bad hair day ?

Sorry for dragging this up again, but was browsing a site recommended by GD in one of his replies to the nigerian scam post and noticed this Thought you may be interested

It's funny how people are so willing to believe the ridiculous (e.g. the WTC guy), but will refute the merely unusual.