Topic awaiting preservation: I'm in love

with Firebird.

I hate Flash because one never knows if it's just a simple something or something that's going to eat your CPU cycles. Then I installed a plug-in and now I have a button replacing automatically all flash stuff and all it takes is to press this button to make the flash thing works again. Cool !!

What in the hell was I doing using that stupid IE browser !!!

another one has been brought to the light

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What in the hell was I doing using that stupid IE browser !!!

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yes thats a good question!

one more who fell in love with firebird.



[This message has been edited by mejokim (edited 10-17-2003).]

Yeah, let's not let anything actually use our CPU power, *ghasp* what a horrid thought.



mejokim: no one asked a question.

Actually, there is a question that was not supposed to be a question and that, for this reason, carries no interrogation mark at its end.

I can see viol ascending is a ray of light already...

One more member of the Asylum Firebird Fan Club

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Yeah, let's not let anything actually use our CPU power, *ghasp* what a horrid thought.

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Nothing wrong with Flash movies (or anything else for that matter) using CPU power as long as you have CPU power to spend. If you're browsing through a page looking for some simple instructions while Photoshop and Flash are running in the background, the PC will almost stop if you enter a web page that uses a lot of CPU power. But if you go to the page to view that thing, then it is nothing wrong with using all of that CPU power since you're expecting it.

Converted to FireBird recently as well. Didn't notice much difference from Mozilla, but the tiny pieces that where different were enough to make me change

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- the Golden Ratio -

I'm also a big fan of Firebird.

Jestah

ok, i'm downloading it. I have 0.6 already but never really used it. Been a big fan of Crazy Browser for quite sometime.

got a good ap that will conver my IE favorites to Moz. style?

~runs off to search the :FAQ: ~

Later,

C:\


~Binary is best~

CPrompt

I just downloaded Firebird because of Viol's last thread about it and I'm close to pushing the button to making it my default browser soon too. I was pleasantly suprised to find that Firebird had already converted my IE favorites and they were there waiting for me already.

I too have been a Crazy Browser user for quite a while now and I'm liking Firebird better already. I don't think there's any functionality that CB has the FB doesn't and some which FB does better. I really like the fact that you can set your home page to a folder of links so if you have say 3 or 4 forums you look through all the time you can put them in one bookmark folder and then set that folder as your home page and they will all be open in tabs waiting for you when you crank up the browser.

-Butcher-

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got a good ap that will conver my IE favorites to Moz. style?

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BookmarkPriest is the best. Converts in any direction between Netscape/IE/Opera.

See: http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/~csab3666/

Mozilla (and firebird) automatically import your IE Favorites.

Look under bookmarks and you will find a folder named (aptly enough) Imported IE Favorites (as Butcher stated).

I plan to re-install my W2K, and think I'll put Firebird as default browser, and get rid of that Outlook crap and use Thunderbird. Nonetheless I admit I'll use IE since it's still faster for some heavy DHTML stuffs.

Mathieu "POÏ" HENRI

I still use IE to read the news in the nytimes.com site.
It's because IE already has my wife's registration password stored and I am too lazy to ask her again her password (she never remembers it also) and too lazy to register myself..
Can you believe it?

I recently d/led Firebird too, I was pretty impressed with it, but I still need to use IE for certain sites as their d/ls mess up in FB.

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Mozilla (and firebird) automatically import your IE Favorites.

Look under bookmarks and you will find a folder named (aptly enough) Imported IE Favorites (as Butcher stated).

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Well, the thing is, is that I already have installed Firebird and it imported my old Favorites. Never really used Firebird and would like to transfer all my new Favorites over to Firebird. Make sense? That's why I was looking for the app.

By the way, the link is broken. The download is not there anylonger. Thanks though

Later,

C:\


~Binary is best~

Ah I see - hadn't thought of that....

I used to use a program called "syncurl'

I beleive it is still avaialable...should be able to grab it from Cnet....

CPrompt: IE's favorites are stored as plain shortcuts in a folder like C:/Documents and Settings/Administrator/Favorites/ while FB's ones are stored as a list of descriptions in a folder like C:/Documents and Settings/Administrator/Application Data/Phoenix/Profiles/default/xwrzaraz.slt/bookmarks.html. So at worst one ( eventually me ) can do a script to parse IE's favorites and generate an html fragment to paste in Fb's favorites list. In fact, I think I'll go that way since a little more fun than searching/using an application

Mathieu "POÏ" HENRI

Downloaded it and much to my shagrin ctrl+o opens the open box but it will not let me type a URL in there. I simply can't use a browser that makes me click in a box before I can type in an address, thats why I stoped using netscape to begin with.

Why Crtl-O? Just press F6

dmstiner + kuckus: Alt+D also does the trick.

Here comes more complete list of the keyboard shortcuts in Firebird and its competitor, and another one for the mouse shortcuts.

Mathieu "POÏ" HENRI

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Downloaded it and much to my shagrin ctrl+o opens the open box but it will not let me type a URL in there.

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Ctrl + Shift + L will do the trick.

Later,

C:\


~Binary is best~

I'll give this alt+d a shot, gonna be hard to kick my ctrl+o habit though, it's all muscle memory now

I've been playing with Firebird a bit ever since I downloaded it to do some testing. I really like it and have started to use it more and more. The tab system is sweet and I like the pop-up blocking.

My only issue with it is that my "Cruise Down" button doesn't work in it. I have a Logitech mouse that has an extra button above and below the scrollwheel. For the down button doesn't work in Firebird. The up button works fine.

Strange.

:::11oh1:::

Wow, Firebird is really gaining a following in this place. This is good news

Just a general note... if there's any feature you wish that Firebird had, be sure to check the Extension Room. More often than not, they've got what you need

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My only issue with it is that my "Cruise Down" button doesn't work in it.

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I use a trackball, by Logitech, that also has the two cruise buttons on top and below the wheel, and both work fine with Firebird.

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More often than not, they've got what you need

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I'm using three extensions for Firebird: one to allow me to open a link in "this" window, one to save and store a session - the set of open tabs - and one to make all flash stuff to become just a button.

[This message has been edited by viol (edited 10-17-2003).]

the only thing i don't like about firebird is that it takes forever to bookmark anything
i love the fact that flash is included, as i don't have to click no when playing games with flash banners! (dowload flash by macromedia? NO!)

Another good point for Firebird 0.7 is the StyleSheet switcher that appear in the bottom left corner when a page have some alternative stylesheets.

Mathieu "POÏ" HENRI

oh, i got a short question to this. how do i have to insert my stylesheets so that they appear down there? i am using ala's JS. styleswitcher

mas: Apparently, all you have to do is put "alternative stylesheet" in the rel attribute of the link tag. Just like that:

<link rel="alternate stylesheet" title="my other stylesheet" href="other.css">

<link rel="stylesheet" title="my primary stylesheet" href="primary.css">

And, the style switcher icons will appear on Fb0.7. Notice that you can split your stylesheets in several CSS files, and Fb will group them according to the title attribute of the link tags.

Hope that helps,
Mathieu "POÏ" HENRI

[This message has been edited by poi (edited 10-20-2003).]

I dunno about you guys. But I'm pretty excited. Not just because I have FB and love it, but because it looks like its gaining a lot of new users. Finally a browser (and an open source one at that!) is gaining steam against IE.

I'm happy about the growing popularity of FireBird, but I fear it won't go outside of the web professionals microcosmos until famous websites ( I think to google, AOL & TW websites, yahoo, amazon ... ) explicitly promote web standards and fight the lack of compliance of older browsers. The mass public is not even aware of the crap they're using and that there's some excellent alternatives.

Mathieu "POÏ" HENRI

You have a very good point Poi. I myself am too afraid to install FB on my mother's computer for fear she constantly be calling me up asking whe ebay stop working or other such problems. However, its the microcosm of web pros that BUILD the web, and they'll probably want the sites they make to work correctly on their default browser as well. So I now have faith! and a kickass browser

Anybody besides me having problems getting FB to properly open .asx or .wma files? It gives them both to me in plain text.

-Butcher-

Anyone besides me having FB 0.7 display ugly grey <hr>s in the asylum? They used to be orange... *sigh*

For the record:

1) I hit CTRL+o, and it works the same as it always has in any other app...I can type away without clicking anywhere.....


2) Firebird (along with Mozilla and NN) will render HR's here wrong because they are not formatted to account for the way these browsers deal with HR's color.

IE uses color:color; to define the HR, whereas mozilla uses background-color:color;



[This message has been edited by DL-44 (edited 10-21-2003).]

Hmmm, I remember they showed up orange in 0.6, but not in 0.7. Maybe they changed it. Or maybe I'm losing my memory...

I've had problems with .asx and .wmv's as well butcher. They open as plain text for me too.

Guess I'll have to keep IE around for just such emergencies.

:::11oh1:::

Dang, and here I thought it was only Lacuna who's been set ablaze by the Firebird (sorry, a bit short on metaphors today). Now the only question is whether or not all this enthusiasm will be able to overcome my intense laziness when it comes to installing a new browser...


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You'll be amazed how easy it is to install Firebird. Just like the old days.

I believe the reason you're havin' trouble opening certain file types is because they don't have the proper mime types. IE will guess the mime type if one isn't given, (so many webmaster's have never gotten into the habbit). FB doesn't guess mime types for security reasons. I wish they had the option to though. I believe that saving the file to your PC and then running it is a feasible work around in the meantime.

P.S to Suho, come on! give it a try!!! look, the style sheet switcher already works with your website:



argh... couldn't get mahjqa's scanline mini tut to work

[This message has been edited by Schitzoboy (edited 10-21-2003).]

Ack, peer pressure!

IE does suck pretty badly, though, I must admit.... grrr... must... resist....


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Oh, stop being a pussy.



You'll need to install it sooner or later for testing anyway.

That was a low blow, man. You sure know how to hit a guy where it hurts.

OK, fine, I'll install the blasted thing. I mean, if I can jump back into this pile of loonies, I think I should be able to install a silly little browser...


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There is one feature in FB that I would prefer if it would act like IE.
When you have just visited a site, and if you want to visit it again, usually, in IE, I just have to click that down arrow at the right of the address bar (or press F4, in IE) and my last visited addresses will show up in the order they were last visited.
Well, in FB there is the same feature but the order in which the addresses are saved in that list is not related to when the site was last visited. I mean, it should be LIFO, but I'm afraid it's FIFO, so to make a point. For instance, the address of the OzoneAsylum is stuck as the first one, no matter what I do, in FB. Not that having this address as the first one bothers me, but I'd rather having my last visited sites up there.

I think the trick in Mozilla / Firebird is that is displays the sites you visit most at the top of the drop-down list.

But getting the list you're looking for isn't too hard either:
Press Strg+H for History, select View: By Last Visited beneath the sidebar's search box and you're there. Not quite the same as IE's address bar menu but almost...

Speakin' of peer pressure... Have you tried the new version yet, Emps? I know you had trouble gettin' .6.1 to function, I'm curious to know if .7 solved whatever problem was breakin' it for you.

One little question,

I use MSN messenger and I use hotmail to well, e-mail, when I click the "X new e-mails" on my MSN contact list it opens in IE even tho Mozilla is my default browser.

If I could get that sorted I'll be fully 'zilla converted

alright.. you guys got me too... downloaded it this morning... and i'm hooked. great browser! I've tried mozilla lots of times but this one is the only one i've liked

Just found out that if you right-click any picture from a website, you can choose not have anymore pictures from that address displayed (block images from xxxxx.com).
Isn't it great?

i just installed firebird 0.7 and i like it, really, well
except for one thing (so far)

i have html pages with the images that goes with them on my desktop
firebird opens the pages but not with the images - broken image icons
but it will open the images alone
i looked around at mozilla org and can't figure it out (me stupid)
how do i fix this? and i will like it even more.

I will make a guess here.

If I understood it correctly, you have some images in your desktop that are part of some html files that you like to see in your browser !? That's weird. Well, but that's not the question.

My guess is that Firebird does not know what a desktop is because it's something that only Microsoft apps - or apps made by companies that worship Microsoft - knows how to do.

So, a possible workaround would be if you could edit such pages but instead of using Desktop or something like it, you use the real address of the desktop and this is:

Documents and Settings/"Your login name"/Desktop/

"Documents and Settings is located in the same drive as your Windows folder. Substitute "Your login name" by your login name (this is a recursive explanation).

If you are already using the real address of the desktop, then I don't have any more guesses.

it's pages i make for myself--learning exercises
i use "C:\WINDOWS\Desktop etc.."
when i open it is changed to "file:///C:/WINDOWS/Desktop etc.." in the address bar
here's a clue--i made one tonite with an image in a iframe and
on open i get alert box says c is not a valid protocol
if i put the pages on website they open just fine
or with explorer they open fine without internet
i guess it's to do with windows?
thanks for trying to help

oh well, i still like firebird anyway



[This message has been edited by outcydr (edited 10-29-2003).]

what's this hype all about... ....let me c...

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Have you tried putting all of them in their own folder on the desktop? That's what I do when I'm developing a webpage and I've never had any troubles like yours.

:::11oh1:::

I'm sure pages in FB load slower than IE, like the same picture took noticibaly longer to load in FB than it did in IE and it wasn't in my cache either.

Hmmmm...nice am actually using FB at the moment......i like some of it's features like the diffrent schemes(not sure if IE has this)......but i find it a little bit slow......

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