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counterfeitbacon
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Vancouver, WA
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 01-09-2004 23:45

Take a look at this, very interesting

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mas
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 01-10-2004 00:00

mhmm, next time, i might try LSD 25 too

Moth
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: columbus, ohio, usa
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 01-10-2004 00:03

Very interesting.


Taobaybee
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The Pool Of Life
Insane since: Feb 2003

posted posted 01-10-2004 00:13

Yeeee Ha! Draw em cowboy.
So no great insight there then.

:::tao:::

moaiz
Maniac (V) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 01-10-2004 00:14

While I will never advocate the use of LSD thats very interesting.

My favorite by far is the 6th one that he did 2 hours 45 minutes after first dose.



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InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-10-2004 00:21

You wanna see an artist on drugs? www.alexgrey.com The man is simply amazing.

CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 01-10-2004 00:24

i doubt i could have held a pencil on acid...

if i'm not mistaken they used to do experiments like this with lsd all the time. not just drawing but all sorts of stuff.

this little history on LSD is kind of interesting too

Later,

C:\


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poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 01-10-2004 02:36

I really like the 7th one ( 4h 25minutes after first dose ). The 2hours spent waving his hand in the air seems to have made him some good.

InSiDeR: Wow! For sure Alex Grey is in his own mystical trip But he has a really good technique.



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metahuman
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: 92064
Insane since: Aug 2003

posted posted 01-10-2004 03:58

6 and 7 are definitely cool.

Ramasax
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: PA, US
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 01-10-2004 05:22

6 is my favorite. Interesting study. I give credit where credit is due and art without drugs seems boring. Where would the music world be without drugs? *ponders*

Maybe I can take some acid so I can be creative sometime. *ponders some more*

Thanks for the link to Alex Grey InSiDeR. Enjoyed that thoroughly.



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CRO8
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: New York City
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 01-10-2004 15:09

wild stuff.

mas
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 01-10-2004 17:04

insider: i thought of tool at first, when i opened alex grey's site. and hell yeah, after i had a look at the archive i was sure. thx for the link

bodhi23
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Greensboro, NC USA
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 01-10-2004 18:28

Interesting links, both of them. I've seen some of Alex Grey's stuff before, but the lot of it in context there was pretty cool. Liked the Sacred Mirrors bit - that was nifty...

The government's done lots of LSD experiments in the past. They stopped most of that research in the mid-80's... a little goes on here and there, but not much. The last acid I had some years back was no good... it's been a decade or more since you could get anything with more punch than a drop of rat poison. Blech! Kids these days don't know what they're really missing...
*cough-cough* not advocating the use of psychedilics though... oh no... *cough*

I would have thought he would have got into some colors there though. ...that 2.45 drawing would be cool with some bright colors...

Thanks, guys - I enjoyed that...


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Hugh
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Dublin, Ireland
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 01-10-2004 18:33

Does this count ?

(look closely)

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moaiz
Maniac (V) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 01-10-2004 18:47

you can be sure that the 2.45 was in color while he was working on it.

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-10-2004 18:59

bodhi: I believe most the the testing for LSD in the United States ended in the 60's. It was made illegal in 1969. Timothy Leary was one of the prime researchers at Harvard's Psychiatric Department at the time. After his "turn on, tune in, drop out" campaigne, the government became a little worried.

moaiz
Maniac (V) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 01-10-2004 21:49

Not sure about LSD and Goverment programs but Hallucinogenics are still being researched. Paul Stamets grows mushrooms containing Psilocibin under permit from the DEA. There is also some research going on at ASU regarding cluster headaches and hallucinogens.

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-10-2004 21:57

Actually that was what Tim Leary's main diagnosis was based upon, psylocibin. He went to Mexico and one of the native Shaman gave him some mushrooms for a religious experience. When he came back to the states he convinced the Dean at Harvard to let them study Pshycosis cures with Psylocibin.

moaiz
Maniac (V) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 01-10-2004 22:26

The mushrooms he was given in mexico were Psilocibe Mexicana, spore prints of which are still being circulated for microscopy research and identification. p.Mexicana also produces a kind of 'tuber' called sclerotia, aka philosophers stones. I hear that if you happen to find yourself in amsterdam you can order them in the coffee shops, (they also might be p.Tampenisis but that is also psychoactive)

Not urging anyone to go the path Tim Leary took, but it is there...

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 01-10-2004 22:38
quote:
I hear that if you happen to find yourself in amsterdam you can order them in the coffee shops,



Its technically not illegal in the UK to sell magic mushrooms (although it is illegal to 'process' them - the debate has been over what 'processing' invovled) and you can buy them from various shops and market stalls:
www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1095822,00.html

[edit: Its encouraging to see that the retailers are looking to develop guidelines as there are none currentl available]

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InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-10-2004 23:15

I'm gonna move to England... or Canada.

CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 01-11-2004 07:43
quote:
I had some years back was no good... it's been a decade or more since you could get anything with more punch than a drop of rat poison. Blech!



the last time i had it is wasn't that great. was at a dead show and i fel like my spine was itching or something. terrible time

Later,

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InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-11-2004 08:26

That reminds me of a rumor I heard that on LSD a vessel bursts in your spinal cord and blood drips down. Could this be a side effect of the overdose of rat poison? Or any dose of rat poison for that matter.

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 01-11-2004 16:16

InSiDeR:

quote:
I'm gonna move to England... or Canada.



I'd recommend Canada - I'm sure Uncle DarkGarden could put you up

Also I'd be suprised if thats what rat poison did. My second recommednation of the day is not to take rat poison.

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moaiz
Maniac (V) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 01-11-2004 17:41

Hallucinogenics grow wild throughout the Pacific Northwest and in some areas of the south. Rather than move you just need an identification guide and the stones to believe in your identification skills. It takes a brave man to eat fungi that could cause you a horrible, painfull death. If you still feel the need to move you can always head up to British Colombia, there are coffee shops and the province supposedly produces 10billion a year worth of Marijuana and there is a 3D school up there...Vancouver Film School. Or you could head to the other side of Canada and go to Sheridan.

Gilbert Nolander
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Washington DC
Insane since: May 2002

posted posted 01-11-2004 19:08

Ahhh...
the memories.

Hugh
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Dublin, Ireland
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 01-11-2004 22:21

Between September and October is shroom season here, only liberty caps grow here, plenty of them is great. Had 50 in tea last sept' was great there was a lad with a pen and paper drawing all sorts in a corner, I never got a chance to have a go at it .. maybe next year. It's pretty handy, we get a bus up the mountain. Field,pub + busstop all within a minute of each other
MushMush.nl deliver instant grow kits to anywhere in Europe.


InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-11-2004 23:24

I never knew there were so many people here that used psychoactive drugs.

reitsma
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: the bigger bedroom
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-12-2004 00:29

insider: but, are you suprised?

reitsma

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 01-12-2004 01:06

uh....you think it's actually electricity everyone's talking about when they ask suho for 'shock treatment'??



InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-12-2004 01:08

You mean it isn't?

edit: I can never get these slimies straight anymore.

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poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 01-12-2004 01:55

Insider:

quote:
edit: I can never get these slimies straight anymore.

A shock treatment might solve that



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InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-13-2004 06:39

Speaking of LSD, and Drawing... I was lookin' through meh hard drive the other day and I found this old thing I made one day when I got high.

Petskull
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 01-14-2004 03:44

um... insider....

I'm not sure I would admit to such things so publicly in this day and age....

edit: come to think of it.... I don't think I would admit to making that, regardless..

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-14-2004 04:39

Well, it just fit the context of the thread. Forgive me.

metahuman
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: 92064
Insane since: Aug 2003

posted posted 01-14-2004 06:22

Where would the music world be without drugs? In a better place.

Hugh
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Dublin, Ireland
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 01-14-2004 16:29

InSiDeR: Burn it. Don't do drugs ever again.

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