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Allewyn
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From: Solitary confinement
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posted posted 11-26-2001 22:18

don't have server access so need client side mail form processor. anybody have one I can use? it needs to be somewhat configurable...

bitdamaged
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From: 100101010011 <-- right about here
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posted posted 11-26-2001 22:30

I recently wrote a pretty comprehesive form validation class in PHP, during the process I found a whole crapload of Javascript Form validators via google I'd take a look there
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=Javascript+Form+Validation



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mr.maX
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From: Belgrade, Serbia
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posted posted 11-26-2001 22:39

Allewyn, are you talking about form validation or "formmail" type of scripts which you can use to send e-mails...

For client side form validation take a look here: http://www.max.co.yu/ozone/form_validation.html

To send e-mails from the client-side you can only use the following (note that this doesn't work in all browsers):

<FORM ACTION="mailto:someone@somewhere.com"></FORM>


Allewyn
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posted posted 11-27-2001 01:36

OK, thanks guys, I suspected as much cause I hadn't heard any talk about complete client side from processors. I can validate my form. My problem is the ISP I use doesn't allow anyone to access their mail form processor .

they will however, allow me a cgi-bin folder. Are there perl scripts that run without having to use sendmail or other server isde processors? In other words can I put something in my cgi-bin folder and have it process forms to send me email with results? I hope I'm asking that right.

[This message has been edited by Allewyn (edited 11-27-2001).]

bitdamaged
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From: 100101010011 <-- right about here
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posted posted 11-27-2001 01:45

Umm I think I understand now.

Okay what you want isn't a form-mail processor but a way to send mail. If your ISP will not let you access sendmail (or whatever their mail server prog is) you're probably in trouble.

You may be able to use an outside mail server but I don't know of any off the top of my head.



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Allewyn
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posted posted 11-27-2001 01:58

http://www.hagedesign.dk/contact/

This guy seems to have a .js file that processses his form. Or is it a trick? I noticed "name=sendmail" in his code. Is he actually processing the form from his own website or referring to the server?

I could use a form processing or "hosting" site for this but I want to avoid subjecting people to ads, if I can.

bitdamaged
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From: 100101010011 <-- right about here
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posted posted 11-27-2001 02:37

No this is done on the server.

Don't know what he's using language wise but I'm pretty sure it's php. A popular php technique is to make the page and the cgi type stuff one page, makes things easier to handle and I'm pretty sure that's what he is doing



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[This message has been edited by bitdamaged (edited 11-27-2001).]

Allewyn
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posted posted 11-27-2001 02:57

Huh. Then I guess it's mailto: or hosting. Damn. Or maybe an ISP switch...I really want to move the site from Geoshitties. Something about F2S doesn't handle the background correctly so I thought I'd finally use my purchased webspace...oh well.

Let me know if I can use a cgi script in my own sub-folder?

bitdamaged
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From: 100101010011 <-- right about here
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posted posted 11-27-2001 04:11

Depends on your provider.

Some restrict executables to your cgi-bin. Others allow you to place them anywhere. PHP in particular needs to run in your regular htdocs folder.

Geocities and most mass hosting providers require you to use the cgi-bin since it allows them to keep the cgi s on completely seperate machines for security reasons. (yeah they look like they are on the same machine but most of the time they are actually totally seperate entities)



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Allewyn
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From: Solitary confinement
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posted posted 11-27-2001 18:23

My provider says I can use a Perl script, as long as it doesn't need to access sendmail. that's becasue they have no email send support on the user server. That supports what you siad about separate servers.

Now, my chore is to find a perl form processor that will run without their support. ugh. They don't support php or I'd use one I downloaded yesterday. They suggested ScriptSearch.com so I'll go look there...

Emperor
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From: Cell 53, East Wing
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posted posted 11-27-2001 19:07

Allewyn: I'd keep trying with f2s as they have a great little free service - I can't imagine that the odd background image effect is anything more than a temporary glitch and we might be able to think of ways to fix it (like uploading a new version or renaming it).

Emps


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Allewyn
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From: Solitary confinement
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posted posted 11-27-2001 19:22

Well, I am considering that as an option. If I can get the background problem fixed, which certainly might be easier than satisfying my ISPs requirements, I'll go ahead with it...it may be in F2s's handling of CSS? Although I can't think of a good reason...thanks for all your input

Pugzly
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From: 127.0.0.1
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-27-2001 19:48

Did someone say they needed a new provider?

Ahem......

Allewyn
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From: Solitary confinement
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 11-29-2001 16:45

Yes Pugs, I am sadly in need of adequate hosting. Problem is I have no money or I would already have a domain and a server that doesn't screw up constantly. f2s has sendmail support but is very slow and inconsistent. Have you an idea? I cruised through the Guru's Network site but didn't see anything about hosting. I did check out some of the Perl tutorials, for the first time, though, and the FAQs. Some really good stuff there! I have to use this resource more, being a member and all...

bmfsdu
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From: Orlando, FL 32877
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 12-19-2002 18:17

You can proccess your forms with out using sendmail or smtp using Biz Mail Form, http://www.bizmailform.com/

It will write the results to a data file, that you can then download or use as a database file. It however will not mail you the results with out sendmail.

Ihatex86
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From: Salt Lake
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 01-10-2003 18:10

Hey Max,

Great Validator, however how do I make this post to a .php doc after the forms have been validated? I've set the form action to the php doc but it still just posts to the html page the validator is on.

Emperor
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From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 01-10-2003 18:29

Ihatex86: Welcome. Could you post the relevant part of your code or if it is pretty lengthy just save everything as .txt and upload it somewhere?

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Ihatex86
Obsessive-Compulsive (I) Inmate

From: Salt Lake
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 01-10-2003 18:42

Thanks Emperor!

Acutally I just noticed that the form had no method! So it works great now! Thanks for the reply though. I think I'll be utilizing these forums alot.


Ihatex86
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From: Salt Lake
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 01-13-2003 19:46

ah crap, well of course this doesn't work in IE 5.0 :X

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