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Yossi Admon
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Israel
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 05-13-2002 08:41

We use ALT attribute as tooltip over points in site charts.
Has anybody know how to increase timeout delay of it?


Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 05-13-2002 12:47

Yossi Admon: I suspect if you have a play with document.images[n].alt you should have some success. I haven't come across anything that does exactly what you want and it may only be possible in IE
http://developer.irt.org/script/537.htm

Here is something on doing it with the TITLE attribute (which strictly speaking is the attribute you should be using):
www.javascriptkit.com/howto/toolmsg.shtml

Might you be better off with something like overLib?

Sorry I can't be of more help but let us know how you get on - its an interesting problem.

One other thing on slower systems I notice a delay anyway (I think) so scripting a delay might just some people wait even longer - try a transition or something perhaps.

Emps

Yossi Admon
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Israel
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 05-13-2002 13:28

I thought in IE this is something like registry key.

Slime
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From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 05-13-2002 22:56

Wait, you mean changing the delay before a tooltip appears?

I strongly doubt that's possible. It's up to the operating system and whatever options they offer the user.

If it's really important, you could implement your own tool-tip like system with DHTML.

BTW: Don't use the ALT attribute to make tool-tips; use the TITLE attribute. That's what it's there for; IE's use of the ALT atttribute for tool-tips is nonstandard and won't work the same in all browsers, I believe.

Yossi Admon
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Israel
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 05-14-2002 07:12

I try the use of Title instead of Alt and it seems to be the same problem, after 3-5 seconds the tooltip disappear.
Again the problem I'm facing is that the tooltip vanished before the user able to read it in complete.
I'm using my own tooltip wherever I can but in this case it's a gif created per request and the map for it created automatic using the Alt attribute where I add the tooltip content.

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 05-14-2002 13:05

Yossi Admon: That seems a different problem to the first one you mention - I've just tried it in IE6 and the tooltip will persist as long as the mouse is over the element. Different browsers may do different things. How much text do you have in your tool tip? It is always unwise to use too much text in the ALT attribute anyway (another good reason why you should use TITLE).

Emps

Yossi Admon
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Israel
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 05-14-2002 20:32

I've tried it with IE5.5 and IE5, in both it vanished after few seconds (even when I tried it with TITLE).

kuckus
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Berlin (almost)
Insane since: Dec 2001

posted posted 05-14-2002 21:13

Well, in my IE 6 / WinXP the tooltips (ALT and TITLE) vanish after five seconds, too. But I'm pretty sure that you can't influence that behaviour via HTML, it's built either into the browser or the operating system.

If you have a lot of text that needs to displayed whenever the user moves the mouse over a picture, why not put it in a DIV which is hidden when it's not needed? Have a look at http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo.html .

Is the page you're working on anywhere online? It would help a lot if we could have a look at it and see what you actually want to do.

kuckus

viol
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Charles River
Insane since: May 2002

posted posted 05-14-2002 23:21

I don't know if this is what you want, but take a look at this page: http://www.alwayswebhosting.com.
It uses a tooltip that last forever (while mouse is at it).
The code is from dhtmlcentral.

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 05-15-2002 01:16

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Yossi Admon
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Israel
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 05-15-2002 07:44

It seems to be a problematic issue, I thought that the timeout for the TITLE or ALT can be controlled from javascript.

kuckus: I'm working online, but my the pages I'm talking about have no access without login as a specific known user.

viol, kuckus: As I wrote before I'm forced to use either the ALT or the TITLE and not my own implementation (this is generated by a chart engine that all the pages running on the server uses and I cant force them all to use my tooltip implementation but I can change the chart engine code to use TITLE instead of ALT.

kuckus: I've got complains only from one customer that willing to do anything to keep the tooltip longer (even to change a registry key), and he uses IE.

Aniway tanks a lot you all for trying.
Yossi


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