Topic awaiting preservation: Opera 7 *beta*

Hey, anyone else here given Opera 7 beta 2 a test run yet?

It's pertty good. Standards support had improved, even on the ECMA script side of things. They've also fixed a lot of bugs. Both of Doc's scroller now work perfectly! And I'll also be able to do a lot more with the scroller I've been working on. It even makes Brattli's DHTML windows on dhtmlcentral work better (the text now flows to fix the size of the whole window, not just the inital width of it).

No more resize bug. (I think...)
No more clipping bug! <- woohoo!

overflow:auto also works correctly now!.. well, it likes to have a slightly bigger right hand margin to compersate for the sudden existance of a scrollbar but appart from that it works well.

I don't know if it supports innerHTML()... haven't tried that yet but for the most part I haven't had any issues while testing it on some of my new scripts. If you don't have it yet then I suggest you go nab a copy and start testing your pages. Something tells me that this browser could be gaining a fair bit of use once they declair it final.

Drac: Great stuff - clipping fixed, overflow:auto fixed - JOY

What about scripting to iframes? That is the final BIG problem that I'm aware of.

The big question is how do we script for Opera?

Should we assume that Opera users are more 'sophisticated' users and tend to upgrade sooner?

Should we script to the latest version?

I suspect we need to keep a close eye on the user stats and possibly promote the full version when it is available.

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Emps

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I've had a copy of opera on my pc since the 5.0 versions. I got the 7 beta the other day and my goofy site worked fine. I really like the author mode, it helped me figure a few things. I wish they didn't turn over so much space to tool bars and tabs an such. Those big buttons are way to big. But, I like the browser just the same. I would script for the latest version. NS4 should be history, so should be other early version of other browsers.

This is great news. I will give it a try when I can. I was very sad with OP6 because of all the dhtml issues. I remember the clipping and resize problems were really on my sh*t list.

. . : slicePuzzle

Actually, be carefully if you leave it running for too long.

I'm running WinXP and I had www.dhtmlcentral.com open in Opera7 for about an hour (I got caught up in a movie on TV)... When I came back to my computer it was chunking like a bastard I the disk cleanup wizard had started. TO cut a long story short it had eaten through all my phyical memory (512MB) and all of my Paging disk which is a further 1.3gig's! I closed it down and brought up the performance monitor and watched my 1.3 gig paging file slowly shrink to 180 meg...

Not cool. The only other apps I had running were IE, Mozilla and my text editor.

*does quick document.getElementById().innerHTML alret to check*

IE = Good!
Mozilla = Good!
Opera7 = Good! <- Yay!

Ok, I can forgive the memory issues... Hopefully that'll be fixed in the final release. Thank god... InnerHTML in Opera! Yay!

Edit2: I just checked to make sure innerHTML was writable as well as readable and it is. So far so good. I'll be putting a bunch of stuff togther tonight that would have run into just about every single hick-up in Opera6 so if I hit a wall then I'll let you all know.

Edit: I botched the UBB code...

[This message has been edited by Dracusis (edited 01-15-2003).]

OK Dracusis has been testing the DHTML Nirvana cross-browser iframe effect from this FAQ (link is updated as the site has been redesigned):

:FAQ:

and although the example doesn't work Drac thinks its due to Op just being cut out of the script so it doesn't really answer our question. If Op7 does support this kind of scripting to an IFRAME then basically this is what Bug's has described as the Holy Grail. Wooooo!!!!!!

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Emps

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And after some more testing it appears that you can script to ifranes in Opera. I was using a script which worked in NS4.x and NS6 and IE but not Op 5 and 6 and Op 7 works fine with it:

quote:

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function loadPage (target, page) {

if (document.layers) {

layername = target+"Layer";

o = document.layers['layername'];

o.load('page', width);

}

else {

framename = target+"Iframe"

parent.frames[framename].location.href=page;

}

}

---

So that is a good step in the right direction

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