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Yossi Admon Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Israel Insane since: Nov 2001	posted 02-24-2003 17:47 Hi, I'm trying to differ between NS 6+ and IE inside a stylesheet. The code I'm using the following code within a stylesheet: .HandStyle {cursor:hand;} and the problem is NS 6+ don't know the hand style it knows the cursorointer; style. How can I differ within a stylesheet between NS 6+ and IE or do you know about comon style for the hand? 10x in advanced Yossi Admon {Petskull Edit} Die slimey, die! [This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 02-25-2003).]
Emperor Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers From: Cell 53, East Wing Insane since: Jul 2001	posted 02-24-2003 17:55 Yossi Admon: I'm not sure of your question - are you looking for something like the IE layout hack where you can serve up differnt widths to different browsers then see: http://glish.com/css/hacks.asp If this is a question about getting the cursor working cross-browser then as you say cursor: hand is IE only but cursor: pointer should work for both. If I've completely misunderstood then sorry And 10x? Ten times what? ___________________ Emps FAQs: Emperor
Slime Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000	posted 02-24-2003 17:59 Yeah, I think you should just use cursorointer; , since hand isn't standard. {Petskull Edit} Die slimey, die! [This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 02-25-2003).]
Yossi Admon Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Israel Insane since: Nov 2001	posted 02-24-2003 18:17 I have tryied the <td style="cursorointer;"> it works fine in NS but not in IE. {Petskull Edit} Die slimey, die! [This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 02-25-2003).]
Slime Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000	posted 02-24-2003 18:26 It works for me. Let's see your code. What version of IE are you testing in?
Yossi Admon Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Israel Insane since: Nov 2001	posted 02-24-2003 18:32 I'm using IE 5.5 following code is not working. <html> <body> <table> <tr> <td style="cursorointer;"> This is a test</td> </tr> </table> <body> </html> {Petskull Edit} Die slimey, die! [This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 02-25-2003).]
Slime Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000	posted 02-24-2003 18:45 Ah, ok. It must be an IE 5.5 flaw then. Although this isn't standards-compliant, you might try: cursor:hand; cursorointer; Since IE should ignore the second one if it doesn't understand it, and other browsers should ignore the first one since they don't understand it.
Yossi Admon Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Israel Insane since: Nov 2001	posted 02-24-2003 18:46 The code works fine in IE6 the problem is IE 5.5 Do we have any workaround?
Yossi Admon Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Israel Insane since: Nov 2001	posted 02-24-2003 18:51 .HandType{ cursorointer; cursor:hand; } Works fine 10x. {Petskull Edit} Getting tired of Deleting Slimies!! what is wrong with you people..? [This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 02-25-2003).]
Dracusis Maniac (V) Inmate From: Brisbane, Australia Insane since: Apr 2001	posted 02-24-2003 21:54 I think IE 5.x has issues applying cursorointer to inline elements, I've run into this issue before, don't think I ever really solved it though. "Pointer" should work fine for block elements; just remember that your css isn't likely to validate with cursor:hand. Not a big issue though as I can't see a non standard cursor value causing any real problems in past or present browsers.
Slime Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000	posted 02-24-2003 22:12 Yossi: It is important that you do cursor:hand; cursorointer; rather than cursorointer; cursor:hand; This is because the standards-compliant one must be kept last. The reason for this is that cursor:hand might one day become standard. When it does, your code will start following that new standard in standards-compliant browsers. If, however, you keep the non-standard part first, then if it becomes standard later on, the second part will override it, and your page won't break. {Petskull Edit} Yeah, don't laugh... the slimes were YOUR idea... hehe tra la la... watch me wreak havoc in Slime's post!! I'm a maniac!! I'm outta controll!! OK, bye... [This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 02-25-2003).]
Yossi Admon Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Israel Insane since: Nov 2001	posted 02-26-2003 20:08 It work only in this order!
Slime Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000	posted 02-26-2003 20:22 Thanks Petskull =) The horrible slimey-detection code, mind you, was not my idea. That was the idea of the makers of UBB. =) [edit: if it only works in that order, you should attempt to find a different workaround, or maybe give up the effect entirely. It's probably not as important as learning and using good coding techniques is.] [This message has been edited by Slime (edited 02-26-2003).]

Topic awaiting preservation: NS - IE and hand style\$

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Thread

Yossi Admon
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Israel
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted 02-24-2003 17:47

Hi,
I'm trying to differ between NS 6+ and IE inside a stylesheet.
The code I'm using the following code within a stylesheet: .HandStyle {cursor:hand;}
and the problem is NS 6+ don't know the hand style it knows the cursorointer; style.
How can I differ within a stylesheet between NS 6+ and IE or do you know about comon style for the hand?

10x in advanced
Yossi Admon

{Petskull Edit} Die slimey, die!

[This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 02-25-2003).]

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted 02-24-2003 17:55

Yossi Admon: I'm not sure of your question - are you looking for something like the IE layout hack where you can serve up differnt widths to different browsers then see:
http://glish.com/css/hacks.asp

If this is a question about getting the cursor working cross-browser then as you say cursor: hand is IE only but cursor: pointer should work for both.

If I've completely misunderstood then sorry

And 10x? Ten times what?

___________________
Emps

FAQs: Emperor

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted 02-24-2003 17:59

Yeah, I think you should just use cursorointer; , since hand isn't standard.

{Petskull Edit} Die slimey, die!

[This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 02-25-2003).]

Yossi Admon
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Israel
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted 02-24-2003 18:17

I have tryied the <td style="cursorointer;"> it works fine in NS but not in IE.

{Petskull Edit} Die slimey, die!

[This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 02-25-2003).]

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted 02-24-2003 18:26

It works for me. Let's see your code.

What version of IE are you testing in?

Yossi Admon
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Israel
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted 02-24-2003 18:32

I'm using IE 5.5
following code is not working.
<html>
<body>
<table>
<tr>
<td style="cursorointer;"> This is a test</td>
</tr>
</table>
<body>
</html>

{Petskull Edit} Die slimey, die!

[This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 02-25-2003).]

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted 02-24-2003 18:45

Ah, ok. It must be an IE 5.5 flaw then.

Although this isn't standards-compliant, you might try:

cursor:hand;
cursorointer;

Since IE *should* ignore the second one if it doesn't understand it, and other browsers *should* ignore the first one since they don't understand it.

Yossi Admon
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Israel
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted 02-24-2003 18:46

The code works fine in IE6 the problem is IE 5.5
Do we have any workaround?

Yossi Admon
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Israel
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted 02-24-2003 18:51

.HandType{
cursorointer;
cursor:hand;
}
Works fine 10x.

{Petskull Edit} Getting tired of Deleting Slimies!! what is wrong with you people..?

[This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 02-25-2003).]

Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted 02-24-2003 21:54

I think IE 5.x has issues applying cursorointer to inline elements, I've run into this issue before, don't think I ever really solved it though. "Pointer" should work fine for block elements; just remember that your css isn't likely to validate with cursor:hand. Not a big issue though as I can't see a non standard cursor value causing any real problems in past or present browsers.

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted 02-24-2003 22:12

Yossi: It is important that you do

cursor:hand;
cursorointer;

rather than

cursorointer;
cursor:hand;

This is because the standards-compliant one must be kept last. The reason for this is that cursor:hand might one day become standard. When it does, your code will start following that new standard in standards-compliant browsers. If, however, you keep the non-standard part first, then if it *becomes* standard later on, the second part will override it, and your page won't break.

{Petskull Edit} Yeah, don't laugh... the slimes were YOUR idea... hehe tra la la... watch me wreak havoc in Slime's post!! I'm a maniac!! I'm outta controll!! OK, bye...

[This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 02-25-2003).]

Yossi Admon
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Israel
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted 02-26-2003 20:08

It work only in this order!

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted 02-26-2003 20:22

Thanks Petskull =)

The horrible slimey-detection code, mind you, was *not* my idea. That was the idea of the makers of UBB. =)

[edit: if it only works in that order, you should attempt to find a different workaround, or maybe give up the effect entirely. It's probably not as important as learning and using good coding techniques is.]

[This message has been edited by Slime (edited 02-26-2003).]