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AlterMativ
Obsessive-Compulsive (I) Inmate

From: Paris, FR
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 10-03-2003 16:30

Hi,

I've been wondering about something for a long time now:
in Photoshop(v.6, at least), can I remove that black line that's around the workspace?(around the image, that 1px thin line)

It could really be helpful for me...

thanks in advance-

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krets
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: KC, KS
Insane since: Nov 2002

posted posted 10-03-2003 18:51

After looking through the Preferences options, I'm thinking no.

Unless you want to hit "F" twice to go to the full screen view which will put your picture on a completely black background and you won't see the line.

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Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 10-03-2003 20:00

One thing that's always bothered me about Photoshop is that it thinks the area around the workspace is useless. I need that area when I work. It's frustrating to me to not be able to have it when I'm zoomed in.

The black line itself doesn't bother me so much. But in general I think Photoshop poorly handles the area outside of the canvas, which is really very useful if it didn't impose so many limitations on it.

Ruku
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Darkside of the Moon
Insane since: Aug 2003

posted posted 10-03-2003 21:55

Yes, I agree with that Slime. Hopefully it'll be fixed in a future version... Mayhaps eight?

And your a Flash MX user aren't ya?

[Edit: forgot the important stuff! Photoshop does use the space outside of the image. Just create a image larger than the image, say twice as large, create an image, and move the layers. Voila... Doesn't get rid of the black line though...]

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poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 10-03-2003 23:08

I cant't agree more with Slime. It's really weird that Adobe's guys haven't yet understood that "off canvas" area is extremely usefull, especially in "expert" mode. It's all the more surprising that Adobe have done some programs using this concept. I wish they allow at the very minimun an "off canvas" area of ~64px or ~10% of the actual image resolution.

Mathieu "POÏ" HENRI

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Alevice
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Mexico
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 10-03-2003 23:36

Not sure waht you all mean. Do you mean like the working image being covered by the toolbar and such? If so, yes its horribly annoying. Thanks gord I use photopaint (and now ver 9, which is like WOW for me ). Its a much more customizable workspace, and smoother.

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AlterMativ
Obsessive-Compulsive (I) Inmate

From: Paris, FR
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 10-04-2003 03:57

I could use that space as well... Let's hope that it'll be implemented in future versions.

and Krets> going in fullscreen mode doesn't help me either, unless I could switch to a white background...

I wanted to get rid of that line cause I'm working on a lot of photos that need to be resized, most of the time because there is some black crap(artefacts, wrong framing) around them...
So it can be hard to determine if the line is part of the black stuff or not. I'm losing so much time with that :s

And obviously, having a totally black background wouldn't help cause I wouldn't see where the image ends

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Ramasax
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: PA, US
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 10-04-2003 04:23

You could always just increase your canvas size by 10% and put it one a white background. That takes care of the line.

poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 10-04-2003 04:30

AlterMativ: In those very moments, CTRL+I is your friend.
Ramasax: Obviously, we can increase the canvas size and crop the final result, but it'd be so much easier for every one if Adobe implemented the notion of workspace in Photoshop.

Mathieu "POÏ" HENRI

MindBender
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: a pocket dimention...
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 10-04-2003 12:55

Yeah, the fact that you can't zoom an image and still have some grey space around your image is annoying. They promised that Photoshop would have the ability to snap transform bounds to the document bounds in PS7 and they didn't do it. I really hate when I have a photo that's giant I've imported and I want to adjust through trasforms that the only way to get at it is numerical or to zoom WAY out and try to grab the handles. There should be a toggle that swiches between the normal behavior and the snapped behavior (as in PS 5 and previous and current IR).

Not that this helps much, but you can recolor that grey space outside your document bounds. Just pick a color and shift+click it with your paint bucket tool. (If you want the grey back, it's rgb value is 192,192,192)


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poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 10-04-2003 14:48

MindBender: thank you for the tip to change the color of "off canvas" area.

Mathieu "POÏ" HENRI

AlterMativ
Obsessive-Compulsive (I) Inmate

From: Paris, FR
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 10-04-2003 15:52

Poï: thanks for your tip, inverting is a great idea

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