Topic awaiting preservation: "living dead"

i've found some time to play around with a picture i drew, with photoshop ... it's a work in progress but what i really wanted to know is your opinion about it, generally i mean , the whole thing not just the painting itself, the set ,the background , althoght the girl has hair and its spreading in the air, like a wind blowing on her face . . . and i call it living dead - i don't know why, but the main idea is when a person dosen't have something or has something less than others, something else grows instead, and it's much to stronger.
just wanted to make sure it's worth finishing it.
yeah i know i'm lame (BTW:if you found any mistakes in my english, please, throw it at my face, thank you) http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album135&id=livingdeadorig&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php

It looks good, will look forward to updates, just go some quickies:
Rocks are far too outline heavy(corners that face you especially). The small ones to the bottom right are painted better imho.
Her stomach is like a crocodiles and her* left leg is too long, should be further back than the other one, unless her ass is weird.
Are you going to draw arms ? The clouds are great, but should fade away better and transparent progressively. The rocks remind me of Transformers the more I look at them. Just looking at it now in full size I see you just haven't gotten around to all of the coulds edges yet.

I like the idea of the painting. How the angels wings are clouds and the relationship of angels in swift flight or riding on the wind.

The perspective of the thing she is sitting on doesn't look quite right.

Nice concept, good work.


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There's a lot going for this, but it has some problems:

First off, depth. The image doesn't look like it has much of a sense of depth. You do have the clouds, coming from the left (her right) wing cutting off the rocks behind it, but you need to push lighting - specifically shadows - to really acheive a sense. Bringing shadows into the picture, and by shadows I mean broad, sweeping and epic shadows (as well as highlights) would add to the overall feel.

Color choice: Hello gray! I don't know if this asaturated look is what you're going for, but I don't believe that it's working too well. Now, if you want to retain the yellow/gray color scheme, I'd suggest being a bit more creative; daring. It can go far, but it looks as through you're trying to "play it safe," in a way.

Anatomy: Although not bad, it isn't "good" either. You have an idea of where things go, and the basic form, but it looks very...odd. Also, she has neck-wings, or something.

Other than that, it looks fine.



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now i've noticed, hugh's right, all the rock edges are facing me, though i don't know how to achieve a good rocks look... and i'll fix her leg, and her stomache. by the way i was thinking of drawing arms for her, covering her breast like a cross... and i dono about the clouds i kinda like it but yes it needs more shadows. i guess her legs need to be repainted... but no the coloring isn't gona be gray, i'm still working on the painting then the coloring. about her wings....wow, why did i even post this shit..
ok i'll put on some depth and post it back, but i think i will still have problem with the girls body...
thanks for the comments



[This message has been edited by Armen (edited 03-29-2004).]

You posted the image to get a critique. A critique is not a bad thing, even though the process mostly points out what you've done wrong... All formal art training programs utilized classroom critiques.

It's how we get better.

It's a little demoralizing, for sure. But ultimately, the best thing that can happen is to have a more experienced artist tell you what you've done wrong and give you a chance to fix it.

The idea now, is to go back and make the suggested improvements, and re-post the image to get more criticism. Ideally, we should then tell you how lovely a job you've done correcting the first problems with the image, and move on to tell you how it can be made still better!

We (as humans) expect other people to coddle us too much. How can you learn to do better if no one ever tells you where you went wrong in the first place? How can you improve on something you already think is great? Only if someone objectively tells you how. Your parents and friends won't risk hurting your feelings - but ask a group of art students about it, and they'll rip the piece to shreds. It's a learning process. Doesn't always feel great, but always yields results if you pay enough attention.

You have some real talent there - the image only needs a little polish. You posted it as a Work In Progress - let's see the Progress!

ok, i've worked a bit more on it, but still is a work in progress. i thought if maybe I post every step i go , that will really be an improovment on me... the clouds need a bit more depth to it i know...i still don't know how to build an perspective that the girls sitting on.

ok, it's still a work in progress, but here it is...i've tried to fix most of the problems, but i can't build an perspective that the girl sits on ...
http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album135&id=livingdead_original&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php

Damn, it looks good overall

thks EMT - by the way , i think i can't do it anymore, i don't have the right skills to do it...... this is my last edition of the work, u might call it hiding the weekness and your probably right... http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album135&id=5_G&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php

I really dig the general improvements you did at the end. A few stuff, like the hair were lost, but i dont think its a harmful loss :P

My only complaint right now is that the background stones have more definition than the actual forgreground, making the eye-focus on the background rather than the other way around.

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so i should blur the background or lower the opacity?

Sharpen the forground, actually.

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