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josh
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posted posted 07-14-2003 07:29

for some reason i cant make a .swf file from flash link to an html file when using dreamweaver. help!

krets
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From: KC, KS
Insane since: Nov 2002

posted posted 07-14-2003 07:49

You're trying to link from Flash to an HTML page?

You're trying to link to a .swf from an HTML page?

I'm a bit lost....

:::11oh1:::

josh
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posted posted 07-14-2003 07:52

okay, heres the problem...
im making a website in dreamweaver.
this website contains small, rollover flash movies which act as links.
for some reason i cant make these link to where i want them to go.
ps. i hate dreamweaver.

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 07-14-2003 18:18
quote:
ps. i hate dreamweaver.



Then don't use it. Learn how to write HTML for yourself.

It's also very bad form to refer to a program as "stupid" simply becasue you can't figure it out.

JKMabry
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posted posted 07-14-2003 20:29

not bad form, ironic =)

Jason

ozphactor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: California
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posted posted 07-14-2003 22:07

if you're trying to make these flash buttons link to html pages, you should probably do that from within the flash program.

or wait, is flash somehow integrated into dreamweaver? (i wouldn't be surprised) Sorry, I don't use Dreamweaver so I wouldn't know.

bitdamaged
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posted posted 07-14-2003 22:23

This is not a dreamweaver problem it's a flash problem. You need the flash to deal with linking the pages using Actionscript.





.:[ Never resist a perfect moment ]:.

josh
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posted posted 07-15-2003 03:03

yeah i know dreamweaver is a no brainer, i've been writing my own html and i just wanted to put some flashy stuff on my website. sorry if i offended you. :P

wait... "stupid basic html"? that's bad form.

[This message has been edited by josh (edited 07-15-2003).]

[This message has been edited by josh (edited 07-15-2003).]

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 07-15-2003 18:22

gee, you sure know how to make people want to help you....



marf
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From: Canada
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posted posted 07-17-2003 22:10

Ok, In flash you want to make a rectangle (or any shape) of the rollover space.
Then Convert new Symbol to a 'Button'
After that you can change the properities and alpha channel to 0% leaving you with a invisible rollover. Then right click on the button and go to 'Edit in place'
And you can just tap F6 3 times. Now go back to the main scene. Right click again on the button and select actions. Then Assuming your in Normal not Expert mode, "go to > get URL" it should be something like that. Get URL is the function you want. That was off the top of my head.. hope it works for ya.

josh
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posted posted 07-18-2003 12:45

hey thanks for that, awesome man!

i'll give it a go and see what happens...

Rinswind 2th
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From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 07-18-2003 22:21

dump flash, dump dreamwaever,
learn JS
learn CSS
learn Html
learn it again
Now with a good eitor you can creat flash style elements without using flash.



__________________________________________
"Art has to be forgotten. Beauty must be realized."
Piet Mondriaan

ozphactor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: California
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 07-18-2003 23:07

Isn't that a bit much to ask?

I've used wysiwyg editors before, and I know first-hand how hard it is to switch.


[ - ozphactor - ]


edit: typos

[This message has been edited by ozphactor (edited 07-18-2003).]

josh
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posted posted 07-22-2003 10:13

yeah, just a little... what kind of editors would they be, exactly?

and learning html again would be just slightly pointless, no offence meant at all.


DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 07-22-2003 20:56

That's not really a very accurate assesment Rinswind.

There is certainly overlap between DHTML and Flash, but one is certainly not a substitute for the other. Especially with all of the amaxing back-end things that Flash is capable of now...

Dumping Dreamweaver I'm all in favor of though.

josh
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posted posted 07-23-2003 11:16

DUMP DREAMWEAVER?...

NOOOOOOOOOO!

okay, so maybe i should.

josh
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posted posted 07-23-2003 11:16

DUMP DREAMWEAVER?...

NOOOOOOOOOO!

okay, so maybe i should.

Hiroki
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: NZ
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 07-24-2003 00:31

Hi, Josh. How are ya?
You know me, don't you?
BigAl is just sitting by me.
I have been missing him for ages on this forum.
Tell him to post something.
cya.

Hiroki Kozai

BigAl
Obsessive-Compulsive (I) Inmate

From: NZ
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 07-24-2003 00:49

It certainly seems ironic to suggest "stupid dreamweaver" is bad form when it's posted in the "stupid basic html" forum!
It certainly provoked some interest!

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 07-24-2003 02:53

~sigh~

didn't think this would be something needing explaining.

It's not the word - it's the insinuation.

In the title of the forum, it means 'the stupid basic stuff you need to know'

In the title of the thread, it means something more along the lines of 'this program is stupid because I can't make it do what I want it to'

Thereby imposing the user's failing onto the software, where it doesn't belong.

Make sense...?

josh
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posted posted 07-24-2003 08:15

sorry to say this DL-44, but you sure sound like you think you're better than everyone else. sorry you had to explain it to us, i really am an idiot, dont you think? don't waste your time explaining the linguistic impact of the word idiots to me, because i'm sure you have better things to do.

Rinswind 2th
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From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 07-24-2003 10:49
quote:
That's not really a very accurate assesment Rinswind.


DL you're right about this. But when i comes to rollovers thingies there is no need for any use of flash....
That was what i meant. Ofcourse flash has it usefulness and it's very powerfull stuff t play with.
But in this case?


quote:
and learning html again would be just slightly pointless, no offence meant at all.


No actually it will not be pointless specially when you don't use the other things much. When designing with CSS you have to build the page in an other way.

with CSS:

body{background-color: blue}
<body> bla bla</body>


without:
<body background="blue">bla bla </body>

Furthermore is was being a bit ironicly about the learning "it again" If you want to keep up with modern times you need to learn it over and over don't rely on old tricks they might not work any more. A couple of years ago we all used tables to control how a page looked. Sometimes we needed 1 pixel pictures as a place holder and sometimes we used very complex nested tables. If you asked around now most webbuilders think tables are old-fashioned.
Going back to the early days off html, in that time you could animate a page by putting several body tags in a page.
If you do that now strange things will happen, mabye the browser will ignore the multiple body tags, or start complaining or maybe show them at once. Anyway the "trick" will not work any more.
I could give more examples but you get the idea, you have to keep learning it over and over again.

<edit>messed up quotations</edit>
__________________________________________
"Art has to be forgotten. Beauty must be realized."
Piet Mondriaan

[This message has been edited by Rinswind 2th (edited 07-26-2003).]

josh
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posted posted 07-24-2003 11:34

hey, it works with the latest browsers, so it works for me. when my "tricks" stop working with the latest browsers, of course im screwed, so, of course, i'll have to learn it again. but i'm not getting paid for what i'm doing, so it doesn't really matter, does it?

DL-44
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From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 07-24-2003 15:55

No, I don't think I'm "better" than you.

I just think it was pretty damn clear what was meant initially, and the fact that it somehow becoms the focus of the thread is pretty damn silly.

As for it not mattering because you don't get paid - bullshit.

Good code is good code. Half ass code is half ass code. Money is irrelevant.

quote:
i really am an idiot, dont you think?



Well, I won't argue with you...
=)



[This message has been edited by DL-44 (edited 07-24-2003).]

BigAl
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From: NZ
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 07-25-2003 02:17


"~sigh~
didn't think this would be something needing explaining.
It's not the word - it's the insinuation."


Ouch! I can see that even in cyberspace hairs can be split, nits can be picked and hackles can be raised!
While I am a little enlightened by your 'patient' seminar in semantics, consider this: the hesitant newcomer may not have the benefit of your close analysis and ironic turn of mind and may simply feel their hitherto burning html question just a little too "stupid" and "basic" to pose in public, preferring to move right along to the next site.
I would have thought html's pivotal place in the linguistic constellation (Quote: "Learn how to write HTML") could be marketed a little better. A few alternatives:

- Hot and sexy html...

- html - Is it all in my <head>? or how about

- html - Help The Man Laugh

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 07-25-2003 05:11

Well, you'll have to take that one up with the man who named the forum

I'm just here to sort out the aftermath =)

Slime
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From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 07-25-2003 06:04

Actually, I thought the word "stupid" in "stupid dreamweaver link problem" was describing the *problem*, not Dreamweaver.

ozphactor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: California
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 07-25-2003 06:36

It's a stupid problem, now? So why waste your time working out problems that are "stupid"?

josh
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From:
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 07-25-2003 07:11

precisely. when i pose a question to some friendly outgoing fellows like yourself, i expect a kind reminder as to the technicalities of using simple html, not some "intellectual" spouting off crap about how much better than me he is, because frankly, i don't give a rats arse. all i want is the truth, even if i cant handle the truth.


and dont quote me on that, you vultures.


[This message has been edited by josh (edited 07-25-2003).]

ozphactor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: California
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 07-25-2003 07:26
quote:
hey, it works with the latest browsers, so it works for me. when my "tricks" stop working with the latest browsers, of course im screwed, so, of course, i'll have to learn it again. but i'm not getting paid for what i'm doing, so it doesn't really matter, does it?


Bah! I still don't understand this kind of attitude. Wanna know why browsers haven't improved in the last 5 years? Just listen to yourselves. Browsers won't get any more advanced until they can stop worrying about having to put up with poor code and being "backwards compatible".

And since when did DL become an "intellectual"?

You say you want the truth? Hasn't someone answered your question already? (Jeez, this is getting more philosophical by the minute...)

josh
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From:
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 07-25-2003 11:22

i said don't quote me on that!

and i somehow don't think that a small insignifigant dot on the far reaches of the earth would have any impact on browsers. theyre not trying to "backwards" compatibilise for me.



[This message has been edited by josh (edited 07-25-2003).]

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 07-25-2003 14:28

intellectual spouting?

Wow.

I must have missed that....



Anyway, your question was in fact answered a long time ago, and I have to assume you have better things to do than piss and moan about one simple statement I made that was really no big deal in the first place...



josh
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posted posted 07-26-2003 00:28

piss and moan? sorry, but i thought that was you. yeah, i got the answer i wanted.

[This message has been edited by josh (edited 07-26-2003).]

ozphactor
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From: California
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 07-26-2003 00:33

*sigh*


...

Is0tr0py
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From: MN State Sanitarium For the Bored
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 08-08-2003 16:19

I think we all got off the subject. What happened with the page Josh? And who cares about raw coding. If its a time saver to use editors, rather than code everything. Money may be irrelevant, but time is money. And to save time, makes life easier for the ones that would rather not learn the full extent of raw HTML. Curious to find out about the page though. Was it the flash problem or were you actually having a tussle with DW?

"The universe is full of magical things,
patiently waiting for our wits to grow
sharper." Eden Phillpotts, A Shadow
Passes, 1934

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 08-08-2003 18:47

Learning to code saves a great deal of time because then you don't have to come here and ask someone to fix it for you everytime your editor screws it up



josh
Bipolar (III) Inmate

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posted posted 08-10-2003 01:29

i've actually discovered that, in actual fact, it wasn't the editor - flash was giving me trouble. so all's well that ends well, i think. (and hope).



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