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InI
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posted posted 03-14-2004 01:00

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CRO8
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posted posted 03-14-2004 01:50

interesting. learning more . . .

DmS
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posted posted 03-14-2004 12:54

As I'm building some sort of simple framework in PHP myself I've looked at PEAR and a bunch of other frameworks quite a bit.
Now, I'm not the person to call it good or bad (most of the design behind it is somewhat above my level ) but I frequent this place http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=147 and http://www.phppatterns.com (very good resources on advanced PHP and OOP design) quite a bit when it comes to OOP and frameworks in PHP and what's very clear is that there are a LOT of ppl building frameworks for PHP nowadays even though they know about and have tried PEAR. To me that means that not everyone sees PEAR as the best alternative for them.

One way to go that is very popular is to combine PEAR B and Smarty templating, see more on that here http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/php/2003/04/17/pear_smarty.html

There's a lot out there on this and the closer you get to separating logic from presentation in you applications the more you will be drawn into these ways of thinking.
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InI
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posted posted 03-14-2004 13:53

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Tyberius Prime
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posted posted 03-14-2004 20:33

ini: Search sourceforge... there is a quite usable pdf lib in there... just don't recall the name right now, but it worked well enough for a largish catalog system a few months back, and is open source. And doesn't require any additional libraries - straight php code.

Actually, I found it

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DmS
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posted posted 03-14-2004 20:37

I agree InI, there is a lot of very interesting stuff in PEAR, also, your conclusions seem to be shared among a lot of users commenting on PEAR.

Now, wrappers for PDF-generation, if I where you I'd take a look at the PDF generating parts of PHPDoc, here are the documentation for it http://phpdoc.org/docs/HTMLSmartyConverter/PHP/li_Cpdf.html
Look through this and I think you might find some useful parts of code in there for PDF generating in a template context.
/Dan

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InI
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posted posted 03-14-2004 20:38

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posted posted 03-14-2004 20:52

I looked into PEAR a while back - largely because of SOAP and it just struck me as a bit of a pain so I have used NuSoap instead which works fine.

I think we do have the PEAR module installed at the GN though.

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Tyberius Prime
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posted posted 03-14-2004 22:04

nusoap, working fine?
Well, I guess they incorperated the patches then, which we sent them the last time we needed a php soap class (don't ask we whey the pear one wasn't used - I was not involved in that proccess, only in making the nusoap class actually work).
That was one horrible piece of code, in the best spirit of http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ThreeStarProgrammers]ThreeStarProgrammers. It had like 4 dimensional arrays, some dimensiones number, some indexed by strings.... and serveral thousand lines of code. And a couple of deal-breaking bugs for the webservice we had to talk to. Fortunatly, we were able to fix it up.

DmS
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posted posted 03-15-2004 09:22

TP, InI, I took a look at that package from Sourceforge, turns out it's the same package that phpdoc uses, small world indeed...
/Dan

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Sash
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posted posted 03-17-2004 07:31

New article at SitePoint:
Getting Started with PEAR - PHP's Low Hanging Fruit

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