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Wolfen
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minnesota
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 06-12-2003 02:38

An elderly Cherokee Native American was teaching his grandchildren about life........

He said to them, "A fight is going on inside me, it is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One wolf is evil---he is fear, anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, Self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, competition, superiority, and ego.

The other is good ---he is joy, peace, love, hope, sharing, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, friendship, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith. This same fight is going on inside you, and inside every other person, too."

They thought about it for a minute and then one child asked his grandfather ,"Which wolf will win?"

The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."

**I like this piece. If you guys want me to, I will post these from time to time. I get them all the time from good friends.**

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asptamer
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The Lair
Insane since: Apr 2003

posted posted 06-12-2003 02:55

and you must feed both - for one cannot exist without the other... well it can,,, but who wants to be a self-pitiless monk who does not fear anything.

outcydr
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: out there
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted posted 06-12-2003 03:10

wolfen: please, do.



Moon Dancer
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: The Lost Grove
Insane since: Apr 2003

posted posted 06-12-2003 04:40

Wolfen: That is really neat. To echo outcydr- Please do!

Wolfen
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minnesota
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 06-12-2003 05:59

Ok, then Wolfen's Emails of Wisdom will continue.

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-12-2003 06:41

Right on the money! Great one, Wolfen.

Wolfen
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minnesota
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 06-12-2003 08:12

I got an Wolfen's Emails of Wisdom FAQ


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jade
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: houston, tx usa
Insane since: Mar 2003

posted posted 06-12-2003 15:35

This battle reminds me of St Agustines "City of God" which describes the soul as two cities, which in essence describes the souls desires of the flesh's in seeking what is of not good and how good works with evil to achieve a goodness. For example, if you are in bad drugs or an alcholic and in a downwhirl sprial, which could make you loose family, friends, jobs, etc. You experience all the ugliness of these vices after you detox or come clean. Afterwards you never want to go that way again. So out of evil came some good.



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Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-12-2003 15:39

The first thing that came to my mind was the Apostle Paul's famous run-on sentence along these same lines. The struggle between our human nature and our consciences seems to be one of the more obvious experiences we all share as human beings.

jade
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: houston, tx usa
Insane since: Mar 2003

posted posted 06-12-2003 20:30

Bugs

Where is that verse in NT? I am interested in how St. Paul puts it.

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-13-2003 00:07

Romans 7:14-24

quote:
We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?
jade
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: houston, tx usa
Insane since: Mar 2003

posted posted 06-13-2003 15:52

Bug.

Your right. It reveals us as we are. Its something this was written 2000 years ago and still holds truth for us today.

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 06-13-2003 16:01

Well jade, just because something was written over 2000+ years ago, doesn't mean that it is the only source of such wisdom - as my people (and many others) have proved. Many sources of such wisdom are old, very old. It only proves that Mankind hasn't changed all that much, nothing more.

Most of such wisdom started out as folklore and tales, to protect and help people against the adversity of Nature. Over time, as humans became more and more stationary goup dwellers, sociatal compromises required rules and laws, to get along - and wisdom of that nature came to being.

BTW - nice post, Wolfen. Please, post more.

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jade
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: houston, tx usa
Insane since: Mar 2003

posted posted 06-13-2003 16:44

Web

I personally believe there is wisdom in many things other than the bible. But the Christian bible summerizes our faith in life like a tool for our living a good Christian life. It inspires in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. But people, places and things inspired me to do the will of God also. Because We believe God is in everthing living and not.

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 06-13-2003 16:52

Well, wisdom is not just the area of your God...nor the Bible.

In fact, it is a human thing, created by and for humans.

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