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Kalan m
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: stirling, ON Can.
Insane since: Feb 2004

posted posted 03-19-2004 21:15

There will come a day when people are identified using numbers, ... well ya, common sense leads me to believe as the population increases [something that is very apperantly happening] we will be less and less personal,
all of these little predictions seem to be more logic and simple science than godly words,

Like to hear your ideas

Kalan

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 03-19-2004 23:37

there will "come a day"?

We already are in 9 ways out of 10.

We are known by name to each other, on a personal level, becuase names are easier than numbers. There are too many people for personal relationships to use numebrs. And it will always be that way.

We've been known as our numbers (SSN, phone, employee id, PIN, etc) for decades now. You're too late


silence
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: soon to be "the land down under"
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 03-20-2004 12:21

Yup, DL's right.

I travel alot, and I have to remember at least my social security number, my passport number, my alien registration number (for legal residency, not the X-files kind ), and the issue number of all the visa's I hold (I have 3).

In fact, right now, as far as Ozone is confirmed, I am little more than a session number (I think that's how it works).

Welcome to the future, mate.

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 03-20-2004 14:29

To us you're a session ID number, a cookie ID number and an MD5 encryption string

Justice 4 Pat Richard

Perfect Thunder
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Milwaukee
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted posted 03-20-2004 22:03

That means the Ozone Asylum is collectively the AntiChrist. What's that I see? Is it Slashdot, rising from the sea with seven heads and five crowns? Noooooo!

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JKMabry
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: out of a sleepy funk
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 03-20-2004 22:57
quote:
Revelation 13:16-17
He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.



Common sense would lead ME here in 2004 to see that we're most likely headed for such a thing. I doubt I would have conceived of it nineteen hundred years ago. John the Revelator must have had a fierce measure of common sense and logic, wouldn't you say?

Ramasax
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: PA, US
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 03-21-2004 01:05

Yeah, or some damn good drugs.

Nonetheless, I don't think this is too far off.

Ramasax

Tyberius Prime
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 03-21-2004 16:36

To the asylum, you're never just a number, you're always your username (which is authenticated via it's password). Same deal on the grail - cells are numbered, users are named, and sessions are not used (neither in the Asylum, nor in the grail).

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 03-21-2004 23:49

So we're all going ot have 'Bill Gates' stamped on our foreheads? No thanks!

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Ramasax
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: PA, US
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 03-23-2004 02:06

I always thought this more as a microchip implanted in the hand, kinda like they do with animals. Kind of like having your entire wallet in the palm of your hand.

Revelations aside, it would be a bitch getting mugged.

Ramasax

asptamer
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The Lair
Insane since: Apr 2003

posted posted 03-23-2004 05:53

what could happen tho is that at some point in evolution of our civilization people would be referred to by their unique 'alias.' Imagine what kinds of names there would be after a few generations of (lets say) 100 billion people. A couple registering an alias for their newborn baby would have to come up with a new name long after the limited supply of all imaginable strings of text that could possibly have meaning attached to them was depleted. Even long before the alias is something like 'prsdk-30294b,' there would have to be '1337-hax0r' or '1RockJ00' (why the hell not).
...just a thought

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 03-23-2004 14:53
quote:
their unique 'alias.'



eh.......kinda like a.....name?

And, of course, that's how all of our names have eveloved - they're not simply things that we developed as "names", they all developed because they meant something. One day language may take the unfortunate turn that would have people anming their children by screwed up web speak.....but that's they way language has always worked as well.



InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 03-23-2004 16:06

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

wrayal
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Insane since: May 2003

posted posted 03-23-2004 22:48

On a slightly different note....
This is a really bad sign, but I have a friend who knows people by their IP address. But as long as he doesnt call himself localhost, Ill regard him as 'sane'

Go to kimber-ja.demon.co.uk and click on the link to the raytracer!

Radio Free
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Mar 2004

posted posted 03-25-2004 20:58

Here's one making the rounds of the apocalyptically challenged:

The Hebrew alphabet uses the same characters for numbers as it does for letters, and guess what character is assigned to the number 6? That's right ...W

www

Research it on your own. I did - and it turns out to be the case. I don't write Hebrew, but it all reads the same to me.

bodhi23
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Greensboro, NC USA
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 03-25-2004 20:58

InI - I love Umberto Eco... Name of the Rose is an excellent book... The movie wasn't too bad either (a little cheesy, but enjoyable...) - the book is always better.
Have you read Foucault's Pendulum? A very interesting read, if a little complex...

As to the topic at hand:
As our society expands to cover the globe, we're already less personal than ever before. Historically, everyone in the neighborhood knew everyone else in the neighborhood because "the neighborhood" was all there was... People travel much more extensively these days. The world is larger, and there are more people than ever before...

A set of numbers is more convenient for ID because a unique string of numbers is easier to come up with... Names are duplicated. How many girls named Debbie or Jennifer do you know? How many guys named John or David? Chances are, at least 2 or 3...


[This message has been edited by bodhi23 (edited 03-25-2004).]

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 03-27-2004 08:09

InI, when I was younger, John's Revelation scared the crap out of me. I was near suicidal because of it. I got better. If someone had told me then that it was a book of victory written to encourage the faithful, I would not have believed it... but that is exactly what the book is all about. I can see that now that I see past the horror I was taught by well intentioned bible teachers I had in school.

Kalan m, do not be concerned about the numbers, be concerned with God's mission and purpose in this world and you will not go astray. Those are my ideas


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