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Blook
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Utah, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 06-25-2001 19:38

What is required to run Java Servlets on a server? I don't know anything about Java Servlets but someone wants to use them that I host on a linux server. Is there anything special that has to be on the server?


These eyes have walls.

mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 06-25-2001 20:03

http://jakarta.apache.org/
http://java.apache.org/

kevincar
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: north hills, ca usa
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 06-26-2001 05:36

You can go zero-$$$ and go jakarta,

You can go $5-10K and go IBM WebSmear...oops - I mean WebSphere.

You can go $10-30K and go WebLogic


I suggest you have a meeting with this guy - each possibility has
it's own unique solutions.

Remember, you get what you pay for.



WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-26-2001 17:45

I have had a lot of fun with JServe, I have also used Jrun by Allaire and enjoyed that a bit.

Jrun has a cost to it for the enterprise edition, but it is pretty cheap I believe 2k for the system, it is a little easier to customize that JServe from apache, makes servlet chaining a snap...

However if you are willing to put in a little extra time (30 min to an hour) you can get JServe to do the exact same things.

I would also tend to disagree with the you get what you pay for aditude when it comes to servers, and server products. Apache servers are free, they do an awsome job, and kick the shit out of the expensive IIS products. The open source products are also by far more customizable than their closed source $$$ intensive counter parts, as well as recieve more input on bug notification, and bug fixes.

If you are looking for a network reaching solution then I would say the apache foundation solutions are what you are looking for, because I do not know how anyone could justify pay that kind of money for software, that does the same thing as software provided by an open-source vendor. Shit, for 5-30k you could hire someone and get a up to 8 months worth of labor out of them on just making JServe fit the companies needs, and have by far a more useful product, just because the product was completely customized for your own use.

-mage-

kevincar
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: north hills, ca usa
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 06-27-2001 23:49

>I would also tend to disagree with the you get what you pay for
>aditude when it comes to servers, and server products. Apache
>servers are free, they do an awsome job, and kick the shit out of the
>expensive IIS products. The open source products are also by far
>more customizable than their closed source $$$ intensive counter >parts, as well as recieve more input on bug notification, and bug fixes.

Well, not to start the holee wars, but here's somethings to consider:

1. Jakarta JSP tags are non-standard / incomplete
2. Jakarta will crash faster than you can say "Doc's your Uncle"
if you have a mistake in your SQL stmt, or you access a
recordswet with 0 records in it.

I could go on, but these are the thing that I found that irk me
the mostest (this week)

Don't get me wrong-
I use Jakarta every day - for debugging and coding... I just
wouldn't run my company on it...

BTW-
Jakarta is NOT FREE-
In the fine print you'll see something about "free for non-commercial use" somewhere :-)



[This message has been edited by kevincar (edited 06-27-2001).]

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