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Ensellitis
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From: Kansas City, MO , USA
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posted posted 07-12-2005 11:08

Thought I would show you guys my latest project...

This is the first house I ever owned, so it's not (It has since burned down, but it IS real) a fake house.

I have been trying to keep it as close to the real thing as possible.














And that is my current progress. The reason I am doing it step by step is because I am planning on doing an animation when it is complete.



(Edited by Ensellitis on 07-12-2005 11:09)

Suho1004
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posted posted 07-12-2005 11:13

Wow... how long did it take you to do that?

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Ensellitis
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posted posted 07-12-2005 11:20

I'm about on hour 13, strait...

Schitzoboy
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posted posted 07-12-2005 12:41

Awesome! I love pixel art. Need to practice more myself. My only suggestion would be to add some sort of logo and text to the insulation on the outward facing sides. It would be a nice detail. something like this.

Can't wait to see the animation!

Ensellitis
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posted posted 07-12-2005 14:35

Schitzoboy, thanks! I can't believe I missed that! Did it and updated it.

Peppermint Pig
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posted posted 07-12-2005 15:53

That looks pretty good. Are you missing siding texture on the upper half of the house that was added on??

I have some suggestions: For the wood beam rafter area, you ought to gradiate your color usage so that outlines between wood that is distanced further apart uses a more contrasting color. Also, is your ceiling really like that: wood planks? Any further insulation you'd add?

Schitzoboy
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posted posted 07-12-2005 18:07

I think Peppermint Pig is right, I don't think thats what ceilings are made of...

I remembered a few more things too. Normally the wood flooring is layed down after thy drywall (and roof) is done. Up untill then you should just have the concrete slab. However (now that I think about it) you might want to keep it in the order you're doing it so that its a more visible step for the animation. I don't know what kinda roof it has but I'm gonna assume it is shingles, in which case you should draw them in. Also as a final step you need to add windows and doors to their respective portals.

Oh and you nailed the insulation logos!



(Edited by Schitzoboy on 07-12-2005 18:08)

Ensellitis
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posted posted 07-13-2005 04:20

Ok, here is my first version that I am actually half way happy with...



reisio
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posted posted 07-13-2005 04:43

nice mayne

Peppermint Pig
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posted posted 07-13-2005 05:18

Ahh, there we go. The siding makes more sense now with that nice looking trim! Still would be nice to employ some depth-contrast coloring. It's too bad the walls go up before we can see the flooring go in more clearly, and should the bathroom parts go in before the flooring?? Tile/Linoleum go there?

Your attention to detail is very good with this work. I hope you continue to work on it and 'furnish' it

BTW, for an added challenge, you ought to have a cascading effect of sod rolling out to cover the dirt Might be more work than you went in on this for, but ehh.. worth it I think, and not to be a detail freak, but how about some proper isometric grass tiles

Cool stuff.

Ensellitis
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posted posted 07-13-2005 05:34

What do you mean by grass tiles?

As for the rolling, I want to try to keep the animation under 50kb, so I will see what I can do about that...

Iron Wallaby
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posted posted 07-13-2005 05:38

Roof needs details -- like slats or texturing. Besides that, it's cute and works well; a good foray into isometric pixel art.

I think it could use more detail though -- bring it that extra mile, and it will really show.

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Ensellitis
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posted posted 07-13-2005 06:55

Ok, added shingles and shadows...



The animated has shadows too, but I am still trying to get that to look right as the house is being built.

Suho1004
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posted posted 07-13-2005 07:00

Impressive. The added rood detail looks very nice.

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Ensellitis
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posted posted 07-13-2005 11:46

Alright, basically done now...



I tried animating the grass as mentioned by peppermint pig, but that made the file size over 120kb no matter what I did, so it was scrapped. This final one is right at 40kb... And I am using roughly 128 colors. All and all I am happy with this.

GRUMBLE
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posted posted 07-13-2005 12:12

cool!
add more windows!

Ensellitis
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From: Kansas City, MO , USA
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posted posted 07-13-2005 12:36

Only had 4 windows in that house.

quote:

Ensellitis said:
This is the first house I ever owned, so it's not (It has since burned down, but it IS real) a fake house.

I have been trying to keep it as close to the real thing as possible.





zavaboy
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posted posted 07-13-2005 13:36

Did it have any gutters?

You should have it so you open the door at the end. Just a thought.

Peppermint Pig
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posted posted 07-13-2005 13:53

Yeah, animating the grass would really add up. Nice shadow work. By the way, here's an edit to show what I meant about the wood beams: By adding one or two colors to the document, or borrowing from elsewhere in the palette if possible, you can clarify the top wood beams with a depth=contrast approach.





EDIT: By the way, to save some file size, take the shadow over the dirt coloring and convert that to a solid slightly darker color. It should save you a few colors for the palette too, which could go a longer way towards shrinking the file size, that is, if you can get it into the 16 color range. It's a bit more work, but it is one way to really crunch file size.

(Edited by Peppermint Pig on 07-13-2005 14:05)

Emperor
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posted posted 07-13-2005 17:57

Ensellitis: Excellent work!! Esp. within the limits of the medium and file size

quote:

Suho1004 said:

Impressive. The added rood detail looks very nice.



You would say that though :P

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kimson
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posted posted 07-13-2005 18:02

I'm very impressed myself
well done!

TwoD
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posted posted 07-13-2005 21:02

Really nice!
But I can't believe nobody's mentioned the similarity to The Sims yet lol!

/TwoD

Slime
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posted posted 07-13-2005 22:24

Pretty good, but it bothers me that the pointiness of the top of the house isn't mirrored in the shadow. It looks like the shadow isn't updated properly when the triangular roof beams start appearing.


 

Ensellitis
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posted posted 07-13-2005 23:49

Slime, Yeah, I tried to get the shadow to appear for the roof, but I just couldn't get it to show right...

Peppermint, I will give that a go and see how it turns out

Zavaboy, will be adding those next. =)

Thank you all for your comments.

Suho1004
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posted posted 07-14-2005 03:47
quote:

Emperor said:

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Suho1004 said:

Impressive. The added rood detail looks very nice.
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You would say that though :P



Yes, I saw that later on. It would have been even more amusing had he been animating the construction of a church.

Or were you falling back on your usual lowbrow humor, commenting on a homonym of "rood"?

Looking forward to the completed version, Ensillitis.

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Emperor
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posted posted 07-14-2005 04:02
quote:

Suho1004 said:

Yes, I saw that later on. It would have been even more amusing had he been animating the construction of a church.

Or were you falling back on your usual lowbrow humor, commenting on a homonym of "rood"?



I meant a quarter acre but really whichever is funnier :P

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posted posted 07-14-2005 05:36

Hey Ensillitis, may I please know what program you used to make those images?

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Suho1004
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posted posted 07-14-2005 06:31
quote:

Emperor said:

I meant a quarter acre but really whichever is funnier :P



Ah, see, I wasn't familiar with the British term of measurement. I wonder how that came about. Oh yeah, that's why we have the OED... which says that rood is probably from the Old English meaning twig or rod, and also "measuring-rod" and "measure of land.' Interesting.

Although it was probably funnier before that explanation.

quote:

Yannah said:

Hey Ensillitis, may I please know what program you used to make those images?



Just from the looks of it, I would say he used something like CraploadofPatience 2.0.

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Ensellitis
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posted posted 07-14-2005 10:14

I used Paint to make the initial images, then I made the animation in ImageReady 7.0, and CraploadofPatience 2.0 to keep me from giving up...

axleclarkeuk
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posted posted 07-14-2005 13:09

Very impressive....perhaps a hatch in the roof for access to an attic would be a nice touch, maybe even a chimney. Just a few thoughts in case you got bored.

No Sig ?

Ensellitis
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posted posted 07-14-2005 13:13

There is a hatch, watch th space right above the bedroom once the attic floor goes up... And there was no chimney in my old house, so I can't add that.

axleclarkeuk
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posted posted 07-14-2005 15:22

Ahhh.. i spot it now, very difficult to see, but definately there..

No Sig ?

zavaboy
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posted posted 07-14-2005 19:57

I actuly guessed that there was no chimney on your house, so I didn't mention it. If there was one, I'm sure you would have added it before anybody said anything.

Seymour
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posted posted 07-14-2005 20:04

schitzo is right, they dont usually put wood up in the ceiling but they do lay some drywall up and then lay insulation down on top of it. Also the wooden floors should be off set sorta like bricks. To better show the passing of time you could also animate the shadow of the house passing and maybe a light that flicks on when the house is complete and the sun is down. I also think that if you can afford the file size i think that it would look rather cool if you speed up the animation and animate it in stud by stud on the inside.

Amazing pixel work BTW!!!!

Ensellitis
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posted posted 07-15-2005 03:12

Actually, the ceiling was wood, as was the attic floor, and th insulation was sprayed to the roof. You have to keep in mind that this wasn't a great house by any means. I started adding the pray insulation, which was a yellow foam, but getting the texture right was beyond my abilities at this point. Next I am going to add more "accessories" like my satellite dish, maybe the rake I never put away... We'll see how that goes...

quote:

Seymour said:
... Also the wooden floors should be off set sorta like bricks.
To better show the passing of time you could also animate the shadow of
the house passing and maybe a light that flicks on when the house is
complete and the sun is down. I also think that if you can afford the
file size i think that it would look rather cool if you speed up the
animation and animate it in stud by stud on the inside.

Amazing pixel work BTW!!!!




Change the shadow??? It took me 4 hours to get that shadow right

The stud bu stud is a good idea, but that would have to be for another project since I did this in Paint, I would have to redraw every stud... I may do that though, you never know with me.

Thanks for the comments.

Ramasax
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posted posted 07-15-2005 07:57
quote:
CraploadofPatience 2.0 to keep me from giving up...



Man, that is definately an upgrade I need to get. Excellent work.

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WebShaman
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posted posted 07-15-2005 11:55

Where can I get a copy of CraploadofPatience 2.0?

Great work!

Ensellitis
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posted posted 07-15-2005 16:23

It's a free give-away when you drink a 12pack of Mountain Dew and smoke a pack of cigarettes a day...

Thanks!

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