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Emperor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 01-14-2006 16:14

OK so we have done this before:

Forum software

But that was a few months ago and things move on.

Anyway I'm sick of phpBB - I suppose one of its problems is its success making it a target for hackers but there are features I want (the ability ot split and merge threads and PM - attachments would be nice. Did I mention free?) and as phpBB's core is so stripped down it means adding them in which makes updating difficult which means the speed of patching it can be reduced, etc., etc.

So I started a thread over on the GN:

http://www.gurusnetwork.com/discussion/thread/3177/

And as I'm never happy until I've quizzed everyone I thought I'd start one here on the same topic.

Sooooooooooooooooooo the suggestions so far that I like:

http://punbb.org/
http://lussumo.com/

Both nifty but rather feature-lite (I've never satisified!!) but I was just looking at another board on an unrelated topic and I thought "Hello whats this then?" - its got everything I want as part of the core:

http://www.simplemachines.org

Hell it even comes with a phpBB import script:
http://www.simplemachines.org/download.php?converters

Sooooo has anyone had any experience running this (I am actually an inactive member on a SMF without realising it and so have had a chance to nose around and it seems nice enough from the fornt end)? I'm going to give it a test install but I was wondering if anyone had run it in the wild as it were

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reisio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Florida
Insane since: Mar 2005

posted posted 01-15-2006 21:28

I've used it some, installed it once (never really played with it), and heard good things. It's not PHP, iirc, which is a plus.

DL-44
Lunatic (VI) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 01-15-2006 21:38
quote:

reisio said:

It's not PHP, iirc, which is a plus



Looks like it is PHP.

Why would it not being PHP be a plus?

CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 01-16-2006 02:59

yeah that's php. It looks a heck of a lot like phpBB. It's pretty nice.

I know what you mean about phpBB. I'd rather poke needles in my eyes than update a phpBB.

Later,

C:\

reisio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Florida
Insane since: Mar 2005

posted posted 01-16-2006 08:31
quote:
DL-44 said:

Why would it not being PHP be a plus?


http://www.google.com/search?q=%22php%20sucks%22
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22perl%20sucks%22

Ah, science.

DL-44
Lunatic (VI) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 01-16-2006 22:19

Ok...

So PHP isn't suited for running a high end all inclusive e-commerce application suite.

What does that have to do with how well suited it is for coding a web forum?

Do you have an actual opinion on the issue, or have you just decided to go along with what some people have to say?

Nemesis
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Uranus
Insane since: Aug 2003

posted posted 01-17-2006 01:39

Science??!?!?

Results 1 - 10 of about 15,600 for "php sucks".

Results 1 - 10 of about 66,700 for "php rules".




Jason

(Edited by Nemesis on 01-17-2006 01:40)

DmS
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Sthlm, Sweden
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-17-2006 09:35
quote:

So PHP isn't suited for running a high end all inclusive e-commerce application suite.



Eh... I beg your pardon reiso...

Case study by mysql on our company for showing volumes & transactions (.pdf): http://www.mysql.com/why-mysql/case-studies/mysql-hp-ongame-casestudy.pdf

This is almost exclusively run using php...
I dare say we are a wee bit more intense than a high-end e-commerce site or a busy forum...

A good language can easily be horribly applied by bad developers, just as a simple language can be powerfully applied by good developers.
/Dan

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-{"Theories without facts are just religions...}-

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-17-2006 11:55

so reisio, what do you use then for server-side-scripting? ASP?

Blaise
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: London
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 01-17-2006 13:31

I'm with Reiso here, php definitely sucks

DL-44
Lunatic (VI) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 01-17-2006 15:08

So once again I ask: what do you base this opinion on?

Blaise
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: London
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 01-17-2006 16:24

Science!

But seriously, it's more like a gut feeling I have, whenever I look at the code.

reisio
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Florida
Insane since: Mar 2005

posted posted 01-17-2006 16:33

I don't care for MySQL or PDF, either, so that's not going to mean much to me.

DL-44
Lunatic (VI) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 01-17-2006 19:15

Ok then

DmS
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Sthlm, Sweden
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-19-2006 14:31

to each his own...

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-{"Theories without facts are just religions...}-

Emperor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 01-30-2006 20:53

OK so we've decided that some people think PHP is OK and some don't

-----------
An update:

I went for SMF.

Installation went fine.

Importing a small-medium phpBB DB went smoothly and really quick.

I am happy with the features and the admin panel is one of the nicest of any forum I've used and has handy options including the ability to turn search engine friendly URLs on and off. It lets you know when there are updates and will go and grab them and install them for you.

I'm very happy and awfully impressed so far.

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