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WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 03-02-2006 16:44

Latest polls have him sitting around 34% I have heard, the recent "relevations" about the Katrina Catastrophe, the threat of an Iraq Civil War hanging over his shoulder, and the issue of the Ports...

Is Bush finished?

Can even the staunchest Bush supporters ignore all these failings? Can we, as Americans, indeed the world, afford to have this man in office?

Isn't it time to pull the plug on this failure?

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

F1_error
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: EN27
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 03-02-2006 17:02

Well, yeah he's over-cooked by now. He was cooked to Lame-Duck status as soon as we re-elected him. But pulling the plug on him just because of this can't be done. It's a legal morass, and would do more harm than good IMHO. And truly do want Dick Cheney to take over?
Until the end of Bush's term we'll see him get less and less done, as Republicans distance themselves from him, and Democrats demonize him. Bush, for all intents and purposes, is no longer in control (if he ever really was).

Ramasax
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: PA, US
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 03-03-2006 06:09
quote:
WebShaman: Can even the staunchest Bush supporters ignore all these failings?


The Levee video --> counterattack = draw, easy to spin when the finger-pointing begins, all rational thought stops, and the sheeple start acting like they are on teams at a sporting event.

Iraq Civil War --> counterattack* = Possible escalation of patriotism, Bush supporters cheer and choose to continue on with their self-inflicted delusions.

*IMO, of course. If civil war does break out, Iraqis will inevitably be taking sides, and one of the sides will be known as the "brave Iraqi freedom fighters." Another will be known as either "the terrorists" or "Al Queda". Seems to match the modus operandi to me. Not sure what the Kurds will do.

The latter, if it happens soon enough, will push Ports World to the background somewhat. Cable news would shift its attention back to Iraq and the War of Terror, and away from domestic issues. As we all know, cable news is sadly where most American's perceptions are molded, and they only ever have time for one government related topic before the truly important stories of miners, missing brides, and pregnant women (oh my!) begin. Attention will once again be diverted.

So, to answer your initial question, seems many are going to do just that. Propaganda is a powerful tool, and I not only predict that Bush weathers the storm, but that he comes out higher in the polls, as unfortunate as that scenario may be.

Althouh, to be fair, if civil war does not break out or is not made to break out within this timeframe, I really have no idea how they will try to spin Ports World. Amazingly enough, there are a lot of ignorant souls out there who will continue to grovel. And the rest of us, well, perhaps they've consolidated enough power that they no longer feel they need heed our concerns.

Anyway you look at it, we are a doomed nation in a downward spiral.

"There ought to be limits to freedom."
Bush, 1999

He kept his word.

And yes, I am in a damn bitter and pessimistic mood. Felt good to rant.


Ram

bitdamaged
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 100101010011 <-- right about here
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 03-03-2006 18:29

I can take this as either of two questions.

1. Should and Could Bush be impeached.

Maybe, but doubtful. The only thing he's really done (outside of what I see as a bad job) that looks impeachable is the illegal (?) wiretaps. While you can theoretcially be removed from office for doing a bad job, I seriously doubt there's any fear of that. The Republicans still control Congress and I think the Dems would like to string this losing streak out until the next election. Look for the wiretaps issue to come up in mid 2007 as the election season starts warming up.

2. Does Bush have the political capital to do anything of significance in his second term?

This is more the situation I see happening is that Bush will become a lame duck president way earlier into his second term than most.



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